Annie
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No, that's not what I claimed.
GM Halts Production of Chevy Volt, Lays Off 1,300 Workers…
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No, that's not what I claimed.
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He is? Post the proof.
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So do you have that proof that "obuma" is the biggest investor in GM?
The Volt was originaly scheduled for release in 2008. Developmental problems pushed the date up a couple years. Neither Bush nor Obama had anything to do with the problems GM had developing the Volt's electrical system.
Annie
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No shit.
But the amalgamation of banks, automotive, green, GE via the government has not helped the consumer. Far from it.
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Don't let the facts get in the way of the Right's hate for Obama, though.
We're still for it, we temper that support with "when it becomes economically viable" and "in concert with increasing current drilling and a drive to get off foreign energy dependence."
Add a bit of, "Let's stop trying to replace it with fuels made from food we can export to hungry people." and you'll pretty much get a bumper sticker version of what conservatives think of Green Energy.
Admirable, but you hardly speak for the right on this one. I haven't seen any real commitment by many on the right to green energy. On this board in particular, I have seen conservatives argue against alternatives, and that we will use oil for thousands of years into the future...
Link?
I haven't seen anything of the sort. I have seen arguments that we have enough shale to last that long, but not that we will only be using oil for that long. I think you are a victim of your own personal idea of what you want conservatives to believe.
"Throw everything at the problem" really means that, Green Energy is included in "everything"...
Yet for decades now, the GOP has blocked long term funding of green energy subsidies, instead always making renewals yearly, such that startups have had difficulty aquiring funding. The actions of the GOP do not align with your words.
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You're kidding yourself if you think conservatives are committed to alternatives in any significant way. They're as committed to alternatives as liberals are to drilling.
Many conservatives thing domestic drilling is the only answer. Usually, when there is news like the OP, we see celebratory threads by the righties here, and in general, conservatives seem pleased when alternatives fail in some way. Alternatives have come to be seen as a "left-wing" cause. It has become ideological.
This might make some sense, had they not passed the Green Energy bill in 2005 that currently is used for that funding.
Reality is not reflected in your post, only ideology is.
Another reality, the GOP would very often include it in bids to drill in new areas, but it was rejected by ideologues...
Of course it is. You never hear libs critical of Al Gore.
I know you are wrong, I just can't prove it right now, but I will return to this topic again.
Now you are just pretending everything is only black and white. What they point out (you call celebrating) is that this stuff isn't ready and trying to force it through huge subsidies is not effective. While they like being proved right on that, the idea that it means they think we shouldn't work towards alternatives is just a liberal fairy tale, told to inflame the ideologues. Republican controlled congress passed, and a WH controlled by the republicans signed the Green Energy Act in 2005, and it wasn't because they think we shouldn't work towards alternatives.
Mote, eye, bible verse... rinse and repeat.