Apples and oranges.
Jesus saves through his instrument, the Catholic Church, as I was instructed growing up Catholic. The church is Christ representative on Earth. The church is the body of Christ.
Apples and oranges.
No doubt you would claim that the 700,000 people expelled from their land in 1947-8 were all invented as well? By the way, Zahir Muhsein was killed two years after making that statement.
Jesus saves through his instrument, the Catholic Church, as I was instructed growing up Catholic. The church is Christ representative on Earth. The church is the body of Christ.
Many Jews have become Christians. Even Jewish Rabbis.
http://www.israelinprophecy.org/ENGLISH/live_site/brief_list-most_famous_messianic_jews.html
This is nothing more than a list of coverts. They're no longer practicing Judaism, they're practicing Christianity.
ABU’L FARAJ... became an Anchorite in Antioch and ordained Bishop of Gubos at the age of twenty by Mar Ignatius, Patriarch of Saba, then again Maphrian of the Eastern Church at forty.
ADLER, Mortimer...becomes a Christian in 1986 at age 84.
ALEXANDER, Michael Solomon German rabbi baptized in 1825 after concluding that rabbis had concealed the truth about Jesus
ANGEL, Bernhard Baptized in 1887
BARON, Andrew Mark raised in Conservative Judaism, comes to faith in Christ in 1982
Was Zahir Muhsein a liar?
The question was who saves you, not if you belong to a church. Are you sure you're equipped to handle this? I have my doubts. You've left so many questions unanswered.
When did Jesus cease being a Jew?
He was from the extremely militant side of the PLO back in the '70s who wanted to set up a Ba'athist based Pan Arabian state. Who knows what he would have thought if he lived?
At the point he believed himself to be the Messiah and the Son of God sent to fulfill the prophecy.
I was in the process of a wordy response but this is perfect.
I was in the process of a wordy response but this is perfect.
Are you equipped to go places that challenge your comfort level, or are you going to continue down these miscellaneous rabbit trails in order to avoid them?
I thought so too.
There is also a school of thought that Jesus was only trying to reform Judaism, and that it was Paul and later the church Patriarchs that claimed his divinity.
Either way, you can not claim to be God or to honor someone you think is God and be Jewish. It is that whole, I am the Lord thy God, thou halt not have strange Gods before me, thing with the Jewish religion.
You're not doing too well today. I'm quoting a Palestinian who belonged to the PLO. Maybe it's nap time.
Way back on March 31, 1977, the Dutch newspaper Trouw published an interview with Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir Muhsein. Here's what he said:
"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism.
For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan."
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?article_id=28222
You're the one avoiding the questions just like Rana did. When did the Apostle Paul cease being a Jew? Scripture says Paul is a Jew even after he became a Christian. Your turn.
If you don't have an answer then just say "I don't know". Making stuff up is Rana's and Damocles job. Do any of you know what you're talking about?
WorldNutDaily printed it so it must be true.Do you understand what "translation unverified" means?
This originated in a March 1977 interview with the Dutch newspaper Trouw: ... alleen Palestijn om politieke reden, Trouw, 31 March 1977 (translation unverified) ...
Really show me, please.
Making stuff up is what people do who don't have an answer. Damocles made it up so naturally you would think it's perfect. We are talking about scripture and who is a Jew and who isn't. When speaking about scripture, I much prefer people who actually know scripture rather than make stuff up.
Can you show us the scripture when this happened. Can you also show us when Paul ceased being a Jew? According to scripture, Paul was still a Jew after he became a Christian.