GOP Platform: Women Not Human

Darla said:
That's not what I said. I specifically said I was referring to supporting the Republican party which now embraces the personhood amendment as its platform. You need to read that language because it's what you'll be voting for. If you cannot understand what i write, sit in the dunce corner with SF.
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Yet more angry ranting Darla? You should be careful, that blood pressure might be a tad high right now.
 
Superfreak said:
Yet more angry ranting Darla? You should be careful, that blood pressure might be a tad high right now.
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Is pointing out that someone is claiming you said something you didn't say, "angry ranting"? Or are you just a desperate hack?

I report, I'll let others decide. Just as in November. Which is going to be an epic ass-kicking for you.
 
Superfreak said:
Funny BAC, because before the war on the unborn, it was the African Americans that were deemed sub human. That they did not deserve basic human rights.

You are damned straight I will speak up for any human being that is being denied the right to life. You can deny science all you wish. You can pretend all you want. But it will not change the basic genetic fact that the unborn child is a unique human life. A life that women like Darla want to be able to kill out of convenience and want to kill to avoid responsibility for their choices.
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Humans have been aborting unwanted babies since the invention of babies .. and no, I do not believe that any woman should be forced to have any child that she does not want. I do think there should be some consideration of the father .. and perhaps she can have the child and turn it over to the father. Men can raise children by themselves if necessary. I've done it twice.

That being said, I do not agree with you brother. Have you ever looked into the faces of unwanted children? I have.

Have you felt their pain? I have.

More importantly, are you willing to adopt unwanted children?

If not, then you have no standing .. nor does anyone else who doesn't have to care for them.
 
Lets have a special election. If abortion is voted illegal all those who voted against it get their name on a list. When the babies are born and your name gets to the top of the list you get one! Bam! Problem solved. Of course you would have to pay the woman who was forced to give birth and this baby would come with tons of state and fed regulations and inspections, but hey, you can say you saved a life... oh and then took loving care of him/her for 21 yrs.


Sadly, miscarriages are a very common occurrence. Sources vary, but many estimate that approximately 1 in 4 pregnancies end in miscarriage; and some estimates are as high as 1 in 3. If you include loss that occurs before a positive pregnancy test, some estimate that 40% of all conceptions result in loss.
http://www.hopexchange.com/Statistics.htm
Doesn't this make God the biggest abortionist in the universe? You forced-birthers should take up your complaints with God not the Democratic Party.


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Superfreak said:
Talk about hyperbole. See the above. You will find it in abundance.

Women can choose to have sex or not. Women who choose to have sex can choose to use protection or not. If the result of their choices is pregnancy, then they (and the fathers) have to accept responsibility. They don't just get to kill the unborn child because they feel like it.


LOL... wrong, they are called that regardless of whether they have been born or not. Just ask women who are pregnant if they go around saying 'I have a zygote/fertilized egg in me' or do they say they are 'with child' or 'having a baby'???



Again, more hyperbole from you... were you not the one that just asked for an honest debate?
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So the guy who set the bar for this discussion with 6 pages of non-stop partisan hyperbole is now going to whine because someone decided to use his own tricks against him?

Cry me a hyperbolic river.
 
Superfreak said:
Talk about hyperbole. See the above. You will find it in abundance.

Women can choose to have sex or not. Women who choose to have sex can choose to use protection or not.
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Wrong. Choosing to have sex, or not, is irrelevant to the right to choose to abort. You would like to conflate the two because it's handy to moralize in order to justify your sick need to control women.

Notice that men can choose to have sex and it has zero impact on their lives if they impregnate their partner - unless they CHOOSE to involve themselves.

This disparity is why mothers - and ONLY mothers - are the only ones with the right to decide whether or not to keep their unborn baby.

And you are free to continue ranting, raving, screaming, raging - and yet that fact remains.


If the result of their choices is pregnancy, then they (and the fathers) have to accept responsibility.
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Wrong. Fathers do not have to accept any responsibility whatsoever if they choose not to. In the event of a paternity test, the only legally-enforced 'responsibility' imposed involves writing a check and nothing beyond that.
They don't just get to kill the unborn child because they feel like it.
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Yes, mothers do, because until the child is born, it is inside of and a part of her.
 
Darla said:
Is pointing out that someone is claiming you said something you didn't say, "angry ranting"? Or are you just a desperate hack?

I report, I'll let others decide. Just as in November. Which is going to be an epic ass-kicking for you.
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LMAO... yes, you have repeatedly tried to paint me with things that I have not said, so you have gone completely emo all over the board. You are most certainly ranting quite angrily.
 
blackascoal said:
Humans have been aborting unwanted babies since the invention of babies .. and no, I do not believe that any woman should be forced to have any child that she does not want. I do think there should be some consideration of the father .. and perhaps she can have the child and turn it over to the father. Men can raise children by themselves if necessary. I've done it twice.
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Yes... and slavery still exists in the world today too. It too has been going on for centuries. Does that make it right?

That being said, I do not agree with you brother. Have you ever looked into the faces of unwanted children? I have.

Have you felt their pain? I have.

More importantly, are you willing to adopt unwanted children?

If not, then you have no standing .. nor does anyone else who doesn't have to care for them.
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Yes, I have seen those in adoption agencies, I have worked with those neglected. I am a 'big' to three different kids here. I help where I can.

Tell me, are you willing to look them in the face and tell them they should have been aborted? If not, then you have no standing.
 
Superfreak said:
Yes... and slavery still exists in the world today too. It too has been going on for centuries. Does that make it right?
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Nope. Abortion is not slavery .. and its legal.

Yes, I have seen those in adoption agencies, I have worked with those neglected. I am a 'big' to three different kids here. I help where I can.
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Quite admirable my friend.

Tell me, are you willing to look them in the face and tell them they should have been aborted? If not, then you have no standing.
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No, I never tell them that. Why would I?

Have you looked them in the face and adopted them? No?

Then you have no standing.

It's just that simple.
 
I wonder what the platform really says.....it's certain it doesn't call for restrictions on abortions needed to save the life of the mother, despite what Darla has claimed.....
 
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