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Anvil Kasseri said:
I guarantee you that the US is willing to launch nuclear weapons in the defense of our allies.

The USSR was absolutely willing to launch nuclear weapons.

The US just never provoked them into doing so.
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The Chinese are playing the long game. A nuclear exchange is a loser for everyone involved.

Both sides know this to be true.
 
Anvil Kasseri said:
If by that you mean China will show restraint and not do anything that will provoke a nuclear war, I hope you are right.
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First, as I've posted before, the Chinese are in for the long game. Nuclear war is a loser for them and they want to win even if it takes another 50-100 years. The US, OTOH, is a culture of immediate gratification. As a nation, compared to China, we often fail the Marshmallow Test.

The Chinese will certainly push as hard as they can, but if they are "threatening" an invasion of Taiwan, it's only to sucker the US into seeking peace by "compromising" and giving China free rein in the South China Sea.

It's Hardball Negotiation 101: demand something completely ridiculous (in this case Taiwan) and settle for what you want (in this case the undersea resources of the South China Sea). Because the US tends to flunk the Marshmallow Test, and because we elect a new government every four years, US leaders will give China the South China Sea and declare victory at averting nuclear war and saving Taiwan.

The Chinese will be happy to exploit the resources of the South China Sea and put off acquiring Taiwan to later in the 21st century without war.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Because the US tends to flunk the Marshmallow Test, and because we elect a new government every four years, US leaders will give China the South China Sea and declare victory at averting nuclear war and saving Taiwan.
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There is little chance of that. The US will continue to sail warships there as we please.
 
Anvil Kasseri said:
There is little chance of that. The US will continue to sail warships there as we please.
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Sure we will, but it's under the sea that the Chinese are most interested in exploiting along with the obvious extending their control over what they consider to be a Chinese Lake.

The fucking Russians still do it with the Black Sea. Does anyone really believe the fucking Russians and the US will start WWIII over the Black Sea?

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/would-russia-attack-us-navy-black-sea-184241
Would Russia Attack the U.S. Navy in the Black Sea?



 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Spoken like a true QPatriot! So much brilliance and truth packed into one small sentence... if our goal is defining what the Republiqans stand for. After all, the *only* point, evidently, in voting for (R)s is to destroy whichever (D) administration happens to be in power. Never mind that whole bit about destroying the country too, right? As long as you can have the fascist fuehrer of your choice in power, it's all good. :rolleyes:
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Where do you think they learned it? After Trump defeated Hillary, democrats created scandal after scandal trying to unseat him, spending millions of taxpayer dollars all for nothing, instead of just representing the people.
 
Trump's cult of followers is fascinating, it isn't that Trump is an honest broker worthy of admiration, it is rather that the other side is wrong or evil or corrupt. It always finger pointing rather than analysis as above post demonstrates.

Prior to the 2016 election I read, 'The Making of Donald Trump', I wanted to see who he was and what he stood for. Read it of you want to know a bit more about a family that is dishonest period. Links below cover topic well too.

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/30724304-the-making-of-donald-trump


'Trump foreign business dealings attract scrutiny as New York probe heats up'

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2021/07/trump-foreign-business-dealings-scrutiny-new-york-probe/



'Lest We Forget The Horrors: A Catalog Of Trump’S Worst Cruelties, Collusions, Corruptions, And Crimes'

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/the-complete-listing-so-far-atrocities-1-889


'100 Ways, in 100 Days, that Trump Has Hurt Americans'

https://www.americanprogress.org/is...31299/100-ways-100-days-trump-hurt-americans/
 
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