Great Moments in Socialism

Finland has declared that fast internet access is a human right. But because I am a knuckle dragging Repugnantone, I oppose all human rights. Now where did I put my turkey baster?

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Michelle Antoinette's attitude of "Let them eat cake".
Lucius Domitius Ahenobarbus Obama's plan - penis et circenses (bread and circuses)
Obama's promise of "Rope and chains"


The rest of the world -------> :1up: <------- Timmie

'Leftist intellectuals believe passion reflects greater reasoning'
'You've got to stand for something, or you will fall for anything'
FREEDOM IS NOT FREE
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Adam Weinberg said:
So what you're saying is, when we privatize government held resources, they're put to more productive economic and social use by the public than if they were micro-managed by bureaucrats.

Yes, I agree.
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Really Adam? Is that true in all circumstances? Always?

Cause if you say yes you're not only wrong but you're completely lacking in objectivity.

Are you telling me that the private sector can more productively educate our 60+ million students then our public education system? That's just completely laughable Adam.

Are you telling me that our nation would be better and more productively served by mercenaries then by our nationalized (socialized) armed services? You couldn't possibly be that dumb Adam.

Are you telling me, in spite of the mountain of evidence to the contrary, that business can be absolutely trusted to regulate it self for the public interest? You can't possibly be that niave, are you?

Adam. You obviously haven't thought this through cause the problem with glittering generalities like you stated above is that they are always wrong.
 
apple0154 said:
The concept of "socialism" goes back to the first family, everyone working for the benefit of the group and we still practice and encourage families today.

Be it families or businesses or communities they all function best when everyone works as a team and that is the basis of Socialism. The strange thing is we only disparage governments by branding them Socialist when they attempt to do the same thing. Most peculiar.
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Peculiar. It's just plain ignorant and hypocritical.
 
Yurt said:
how the F can you say the military is the 'closest' thing to socialism?

all types of governments have military, yet you proclaim that socialism owns the military....no way, no how
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Oh really? Are you trying to tell me that in a national military the State doesn't own the means to production? Are you telling me that in a national military that they will sacrifice the group in order to protect the best interest of the individual?

Nationalized militaries are socialist institutions dude. That's a fact. There is a word for non socialist, private sector militaries. They are called "Mercenaries".
 
Yurt said:
how the F can you say the military is the 'closest' thing to socialism?

all types of governments have military, yet you proclaim that socialism owns the military....no way, no how
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Because, within it's own operational structure, it is socialism. All ranks receive the same pay, regardless of work load or effort. Everyone has the same health benefits (poor), you do whatever job you are assigned, and you have no absolute choice in the matter. Be at this place at this time, or you get charged. Live at this place, in the condition, with these items, or you get charged. How isn't that socialism?
 
apple0154 said:
The concept of "socialism" goes back to the first family, everyone working for the benefit of the group and we still practice and encourage families today.

Be it families or businesses or communities they all function best when everyone works as a team and that is the basis of Socialism. The strange thing is we only disparage governments by branding them Socialist when they attempt to do the same thing. Most peculiar.
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I was going to say that outside of Microsoft Excel, and GIS, most of the analytical, and modeling software tools I use were originally developed or initiated by socialist researchers at publicly funded socialist universities, or in government labs.......And subsequent to their ideas and hard work being put in the public domain, those socialist inventions were ported to consumer products, updated and marketed by the captains of industry......

But, after a cursory review of Wikipedia, it appears that even spreadsheets and GIS originated from lowly paid public employees and communists. The concept and application of computer spreadsheets was apparently originally conceptualized and implemented by socialist professors at the University of California. And GIS was invented at the socialist Ministry of Forestry, in the People’s Republic of Canada.

Good Christ. Is there anything that socialism can’t do? And are there any technological advances, that wasn’t originally invented or initiated by socialist researchers who were funded by public tax dollars?
 
Cypress said:
I was going to say that outside of Microsoft Excel, and GIS, most of the analytical, and modeling software tools I use were originally developed or initiated by socialist researchers at publicly funded socialist universities, or in government labs.......And subsequent to their ideas and hard work being put in the public domain, those socialist inventions were ported to consumer products, updated and marketed by the captains of industry......

But, after a cursory review of Wikipedia, it appears that even spreadsheets and GIS originated from lowly paid public employees and communists. The concept and application of computer spreadsheets was apparently originally conceptualized and implemented by socialist professors at the University of California. And GIS was invented at the socialist Ministry of Forestry, in the People’s Republic of Canada.

Good Christ. Is there anything that socialism can’t do? And are there any technological advances, that wasn’t originally invented or initiated by socialist researchers who were funded by public tax dollars?
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Deadhead indeed...though your posts are moderately funny, don't quit your day job just yet.....:):clap:

Try "Churchill: A Study in Greatness by Geoffrey Best"....
 
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Cypress said:
I was going to say that outside of Microsoft Excel, and GIS, most of the analytical, and modeling software tools I use were originally developed or initiated by socialist researchers at publicly funded socialist universities, or in government labs.......And subsequent to their ideas and hard work being put in the public domain, those socialist inventions were ported to consumer products, updated and marketed by the captains of industry......

But, after a cursory review of Wikipedia, it appears that even spreadsheets and GIS originated from lowly paid public employees and communists. The concept and application of computer spreadsheets was apparently originally conceptualized and implemented by socialist professors at the University of California. And GIS was invented at the socialist Ministry of Forestry, in the People’s Republic of Canada.

Good Christ. Is there anything that socialism can’t do? And are there any technological advances, that wasn’t originally invented or initiated by socialist researchers who were funded by public tax dollars?
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How about disposable diapers? Coca-Cola? Preperation H?
 
Mott the Hoople said:
How about disposable diapers? Coca-Cola? Preperation H?
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Nicely played.

I refer you back to my post #20, where I hold the view that capitalism is a viable system in which for-profit entities can create consumer services, feminine hygiene products, toilet paper, and male pattern baldness products.

But, that the fuel that fires capitalism; in in particular, core technological and engineering advancements, comes out of the socialist hellholes of universities, public laboratories, and government funded research. In other words, an expediture of tax dollars that the Rontards and Teabaggers are philosphically against (do a search, and hook yourself up with about ten billion posts from teabaggers complaining that the constitution only allows spending on defense, and a few other things).
 
, they are not. they are specifically prescribed as a congressional power in the constitution.
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More proof that our founders were socialists! America was the worlds first Socialist Republic.

Those military members also pay federal taxes from their salaries
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And members of the socialist beaurocracy in the founders vision of socialist republic weren't supposed to pay taxes? What does this have to do with anything?

More proof our founders wanted taxes HIGH to avoid the CATACLYSM AND EVILS OF THE FREE MARKET.

there is nothing socialist about the armed services.
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The armed services are the most socialist institution in the American government. God bless socialism, god damn the military. You're a bunch of scum bags.
 
Lets go guys....the blue ribbon for stupid is there for the taking....

Cypress and Atheistmark running down the home stretch....its gonna be close...could be a tie, there could be two winners, its thats close....

one more post from each of you....when you hear the voices or see the vision of Al Gore or taste the dick of Karl Marx, start typing...
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Oh really? Are you trying to tell me that in a national military the State doesn't own the means to production? Are you telling me that in a national military that they will sacrifice the group in order to protect the best interest of the individual?

Nationalized militaries are socialist institutions dude. That's a fact. There is a word for non socialist, private sector militaries. They are called "Mercenaries".
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not true. what production does the military own? they do not make their uniforms, weapons etc....private parties do that. you can't just call it socialist because the government funds something.

there is no equal allocation of resources based on labor expended, you are paid by rank, not labor expended. tell me what the military produces....what does it distribute? are you claiming there is no private property allowed in the military?
 
Atheistmark said:
More proof our founders wanted taxes HIGH to avoid the CATACLYSM AND EVILS OF THE FREE MARKET.
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You mean other than the whole rebelling against taxes, and putting in an explicit "no tax can be laid on income" thing? Yeah, they were against taxation in most forms and thought of it as a necessary evil.
 
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