Greek Health System Opts for Amputation as Money-Saver

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Greek Health System Opts for Amputation as Money-Saver

This Saturday, one of Greece’s most respected newspapers, To Vima, reported that the nation’s largest government health insurance provider would no longer pay for special footwear for diabetes patients. Amputation is cheaper, says the Benefits Division of the state insurance provider.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailycaller...reekhealthsystemoptsforamputationasmoneysaver

oh my...i thought we were supposed to look up to those enlightened countries with government insurance
 
Well Yurt, you know Apple says they can always vote to go back to the 'pay or suffer' system if they don't like their health care. I guess the Greeks must like being amputated?
 
Has anybody on here, or anywhere else for that matter, ever used the modern Greek state as an example to follow in anything?
 
Dixie said:
Well Yurt, you know Apple says they can always vote to go back to the 'pay or suffer' system if they don't like their health care. I guess the Greeks must like being amputated?
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That comment is the perfect example of how your thinking process works. Did you ever consider that, maybe, they could buy their own shoes?

What do you think the 40+ million Americans, currently lacking medical insurance, would do?

I hope you're never given the option between buying a cane or having a leg amputated.

For your own safety have you considered appointing a legal guardian?
 
apple0154 said:
That comment is the perfect example of how your thinking process works. Did you ever consider that, maybe, they could buy their own shoes?

What do you think the 40+ million Americans, currently lacking medical insurance, would do?

I hope you're never given the option between buying a cane or having a leg amputated.

For your own safety have you considered appointing a legal guardian?
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Your comment is a perfect example of mental retardation.
 
I notice how everyone is avoiding Charver's question. How many other things do you use Greece for as the example of the way things are done in the modern world. Yurt, here's a question. Go search the interwebs and tell me how the German medical system treats diabetes. Their per capita health care expenditure is 63% of the US. and EVERYONE is covered.
 
Damn Yankee said:
Your comment is a perfect example of mental retardation.
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Dozens of countries with health care plans and not one country has a politician campaigning on dismantling it. Not one country. Not one politician.

Perhaps you can let us know which private medical plan's coverage of a diabetic patient includes everything except shoes and, of course, the cost.

Here's a graph for your perusal. http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds..._le00_in&idim=country:USA:GRC:CAN:FRA:DEU:GBR

You'll notice US life expectancy is lower than in France, Canada, Germany, Greece and the United Kingdom and in Ireland and Italy and Australia and.....well, click on the list and have fun. :)
 
NHS 'preparing to cut millions of operations'

By Jenny Hope
Last updated at 11:53 AM on 4th June 2010

Millions of patients face losing NHS care as bosses prepare to axe treatments to make £20billion of savings by 2014, a top doctor has warned.
Among procedures being targeted by health trusts are hernias, joint replacements, ear and nose procedures, varicose veins and cataract surgery.
Dr Mark Porter, chairman of the British Medical Association's consultants committee, warned NHS bosses wanted 'wholesale reductions in budgets'


He said primary care trusts - which commission care - are already compiling lists of 'low value' operations that would no longer be provided.
These include hip replacements for obese patients and some operations for hernias and gallstones. Procedures for varicose veins, ear and nose problems including grommets in children are also not funded in some areas.
 
Socrtease said:
I notice how everyone is avoiding Charver's question. How many other things do you use Greece for as the example of the way things are done in the modern world. Yurt, here's a question. Go search the interwebs and tell me how the German medical system treats diabetes. Their per capita health care expenditure is 63% of the US. and EVERYONE is covered.
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yes.... and their GDP is 23% of the US GDP.
 
charver said:
Has anybody on here, or anywhere else for that matter, ever used the modern Greek state as an example to follow in anything?
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It's not being used as an example of what to follow here. It's being used as an example of what happens under a nationalized health care system, when the nation's economy tanks. People get their feet chopped off instead of new shoes, because amputation is cheaper. Of course, the Greeks, according to Apple, can always go back to the system that no longer exists, if they aren't happy with this... so they must not mind losing their feet... Greece is a small country, not many places to go, so having feet is probably not a big priority for them.
 
Dixie said:
It's not being used as an example of what to follow here. It's being used as an example of what happens under a nationalized health care system, when the nation's economy tanks. People get their feet chopped off instead of new shoes, because amputation is cheaper. Of course, the Greeks, according to Apple, can always go back to the system that no longer exists, if they aren't happy with this... so they must not mind losing their feet... Greece is a small country, not many places to go, so having feet is probably not a big priority for them.
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Er...everybody else's economy has been pretty fucked up in case you hadn't noticed. Is the Champs Elysée suddenly choc a bloc with arms and legs discarded from French hospitals? Are the citizens of Berlin suddenly buying all their shoes in singles now?

Amputation time...here we come. :D
 
charver said:
Er...everybody else's economy has been pretty fucked up in case you hadn't noticed. Is the Champs Elysée suddenly choc a bloc with arms and legs discarded from French hospitals? Are the citizens of Berlin suddenly buying all their shoes in singles now?

Amputation time...here we come. :D
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I think it's safe to say, the Greeks are having a little worse time than most. The point of this story is to illustrate what happens when your health care is nationalized, and your nation is in financial distress.
 
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