AProudLefty
Black Kitty Ain't Happy
I wasn't there. I would have voted against it.
Several years ago, lefties on JPP were angry about conservatives ruining their threads with differing opinions.
Using the Ignore function wasn't enough for them.
They demanded a new mechanism that would allow them to block conservatives from their threads altogether.
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As you've probably figured out by now, what the lefties wanted was a mechanism that allowed them to block conservatives without letting the conservatives "return the favor", so to speak.
Am I correct that you banned me from your thread in order to prevent me from ... in your words ... "ruining your thread with differing opinions?"
No, you are not.
I appreciate the background story; thank you. I can't help but notice that while you paint the feature as something "demanded by the lefties," it appears you have no qualms using this tool yourself. Given that I have no history with you, and no negative reputation with this forum, am I correct that you banned me from your thread in order to prevent me from ... in your words ... "ruining your thread with differing opinions?"
I stand corrected then. So what was your motivation to use this feature that you were apparently against?
I stand corrected then. So what was your motivation to use this feature that you were apparently against?
This was my first thought ... I didn't want to bring it up because as a newcomer, it's not my place to badmouth how other forums operate. Especially when I'm acutely aware that our own forum is a long, long way from perfect.... The threadban feature is ineffective because trolls developed a work-around. They simply create a new thread with nearly the same title, maybe change one character in the title, then repeatedly post to it so it always comes out on top of the list. The original thread gets scrolled out of sight.
Oy. Well, good to be forewarned, I suppose. Thank you.... If you want to be a polite poster around here, you have to accept that you'll need to aggressively manage a large and ever-growing Ignore List, and you will be doing a lot of scrolling past "Ignored Poster" place holders.
A respectable observation; I thank you again for your insights.I have found there are a lot of people who seem to enjoy telling off the trolls, sometimes in very nasty terms, but then the same people are able to engage in polite conversation if they trust the other to not sucker-punch them. I've built a lot of friends over the years who are quite cordial to me, but have no qualms about totally unloading on the trolls.
This reflects our changing society where it is now 'cool' to use 'acceptable' profanity, but only in certain circumstances. Other settings demand that one reverts to civil respectable discourse. Mature people know the difference. Others don't seem to grasp the concept.
Does this help?
I stand corrected then. So what was your motivation to use this feature that you were apparently against?
I stand corrected then. So what was your motivation to use this feature that you were apparently against?
PH must have some pretty strict moderation if it's been around since '05 and has such low volume.
It's a slippery slope. If there is excessive moderation, it results in low volume of posts. That makes it hard to build more participation.
If there is little moderation, it results in lots of trolling, but the volume of posts generated by flame wars makes a chat board pretty active.
Let's check it out...
Yup. Guessed it:
"You agree to not use this website to submit or link to any content which is defamatory, abusive, hateful, threatening, spam or spam-like, likely to offend, contains adult or objectionable content, ..."
That would rule out 95% of the posts at JPP and relegate it to being a similar low-volume site.
Not especially. I've only been on the site for a day - not nearly long enough to have pissed of anyone significantly. And I don't think any of my posts qualify as trolling or "assholish."
Did I break some rule of which I was unaware?
Djinn is a "council" member at PH who protected a moderator "rassales" who doxxed me to other members davocrat and idiocarat, idiocarat is a banned member's sock they allow to continue to post there you know him here now as inkslinger, you know, the guy doxing me what 5 times now? seems fair, I know right?
They banned me for "staff abuse" because I stood up and fought for them to do the right thing and ban those harassing me and sharing my personal information. as you can see he runs a shitty little clique site that allows certain members to stalk and cyber harass other members. He's only here now because of me, more of the stalking and harassing I have been dealing with for months.
PH used to be much better when it was fair, they then purged all the RW mods and the site turned into a lw echo chamber where the mods gang up on RW posters. I led an exodus of over 50 members from the site and that really stung djinn I guess.
Anyway, seems PH simply can't quit me.
Go fuck yourself, Djinn.
Hello JPP -
I'm a staff member from Political Hotwire. I occasionally join other forums to get insights into how other forums are run with an eye toward improving our own processes and policies.
Also, I have a question for a staff member, but there seems to be a ten-post minimum for sending PMs. I've no interest in spamming nine posts to circumvent this, and would be grateful if someone might waive this understandable restriction.
Oh Jits! The hero always standing up for doing the right thing! /sarcasmDjinn is a "council" member at PH who protected a moderator "rassales" who doxxed me to other members davocrat and idiocarat, idiocarat is a banned member's sock they allow to continue to post there you know him here now as inkslinger, you know, the guy doxing me what 5 times now? seems fair, I know right?
They banned me for "staff abuse" because I stood up and fought for them to do the right thing and ban those harassing me and sharing my personal information. as you can see he runs a shitty little clique site that allows certain members to stalk and cyber harass other members. He's only here now because of me, more of the stalking and harassing I have been dealing with for months. .....