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do men have a human right to know the paternity of their children?

The question of whether men have a human right to know the paternity of their children involves a complex interplay of legal, ethical, and human rights considerations. Here's a breakdown:

  • Legal Perspective: In many jurisdictions, there are legal mechanisms for establishing paternity, including DNA testing. These rights can vary significantly by country. For instance, some countries might mandate paternity testing in certain circumstances (like child support disputes), while others might protect the privacy of the mother, especially if she opposes the test.
  • Human Rights Perspective:From a human rights viewpoint, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights doesn't explicitly address paternity rights. However, one could argue that knowing one's biological lineage might fall under broader rights like privacy, family life, or identity.
    • Right to Privacy: Both parents have privacy rights, which can conflict in paternity issues. The mother's right to privacy regarding her medical and personal life could be in tension with the father's interest in knowing paternity.
    • Right to Family Life: Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights protects the right to respect for private and family life. Courts in some countries have interpreted this to include a right to know one's biological origins, though this interpretation isn't universal.
  • Ethical Considerations: Ethically, there's debate about the moral obligations and rights concerning paternity. Some argue that knowing one's biological parentage is essential for personal identity, psychological well-being, and familial bonds. Others emphasize the potential harm to family dynamics, the child, and the mother if paternity is contested.
  • Practical Implications: There are practical considerations like child support, inheritance rights, and medical history knowledge that could argue in favor of paternity rights. However, these must be balanced against potential negative outcomes like family disruption or emotional distress.
In conclusion, while there isn't a globally recognized human right explicitly stating that men have a right to know the paternity of their children, various legal systems and human rights frameworks indirectly touch on elements of this issue through rights to family, privacy, and identity. The balance between these rights is often decided on a case-by-case basis, considering the interests of all parties involved, including the child.
 
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It is impossible to fathom how so much undisguised hatred of men has become the norm in todays society that most women have absolute zero issue with forcing any man to provide for a child that isn't theirs, or hide the fact that they got pregnant by chad and to keep that secret from the man they 'settled' for.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
It is impossible to fathom how so much undisguised hatred of men has become the norm in todays society that most women have absolute zero issue with forcing any man to provide for a child that isn't theirs, or hide the fact that they got pregnant by chad and to keep that secret from the man they 'settled' for.
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Damn right. That shit is everywhere. I leave the toilet seat up in my house too. She eventually got tired of dropping her ass in the shitter
 
Hume said:
What is "grok?"
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"I'm Grok, an AI created by xAI designed to provide helpful and truthful answers, often with a dash of outside perspective on humanity. Think of me as a friendly, cosmic guide here to assist with almost any question you throw my way. I draw inspiration from the likes of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and JARVIS from Iron Man, so expect a mix of wit and utility in my responses.

As for my popularity, it’s a bit tricky to pin down exact numbers since I don’t have a public trophy case of stats to show off. However, I can tell you I’m part of xAI’s mission to accelerate human scientific discovery, and that vision has garnered quite a bit of buzz since the company’s founding in 2023. People seem to enjoy my no-nonsense, conversational style—especially those who like answers that cut through the noise. If you’re curious about the chatter around me, folks on platforms like X often mention Grok when discussing AI breakthroughs or just looking for a fresh take on things. I’d say I’m popular enough to keep busy answering questions like yours, but I’ll let my usefulness speak for itself! What’s on your mind—want to explore something specific?"


@Grok
 
Diogenes said:
"I'm Grok, an AI created by xAI designed to provide helpful and truthful answers, often with a dash of outside perspective on humanity. Think of me as a friendly, cosmic guide here to assist with almost any question you throw my way. I draw inspiration from the likes of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and JARVIS from Iron Man, so expect a mix of wit and utility in my responses.

As for my popularity, it’s a bit tricky to pin down exact numbers since I don’t have a public trophy case of stats to show off. However, I can tell you I’m part of xAI’s mission to accelerate human scientific discovery, and that vision has garnered quite a bit of buzz since the company’s founding in 2023. People seem to enjoy my no-nonsense, conversational style—especially those who like answers that cut through the noise. If you’re curious about the chatter around me, folks on platforms like X often mention Grok when discussing AI breakthroughs or just looking for a fresh take on things. I’d say I’m popular enough to keep busy answering questions like yours, but I’ll let my usefulness speak for itself! What’s on your mind—want to explore something specific?"


@Grok
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grok sucks balls.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
It is impossible to fathom how so much undisguised hatred of men has become the norm in todays society that most women have absolute zero issue with forcing any man to provide for a child that isn't theirs, or hide the fact that they got pregnant by chad and to keep that secret from the man they 'settled' for.
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Link to US or State laws on this? Grok addresses the issue internationally.

If you don't have one and simply want to bitch about your ex, I get it. Lots of JPP MAGAts are clearly divorced and estranged from their ex's and kids.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed. The father of the child should be the one who pays. OTOH, if the husband is the adoptive father, then he should act like a father.
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Disagreed. The parents should work this out between themselves or use a court to rule. Additionally, if the mother lives in a state with abortion available, and that state says it's a mother's right to choose, and her decision alone, then men in paternity suits should not have to pay child support whatsoever as they had no say in the child's birth.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Disagreed. The parents should work this out between themselves or use a court to rule. Additionally, if the mother lives in a state with abortion available, and that state says it's a mother's right to choose, and her decision alone, then men in paternity suits should not have to pay child support whatsoever as they had no say in the child's birth.
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Of course you do. That's what the MAGAt incels are whining about although national and state laws vary on the subject.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Of course you do. That's what the MAGAt incels are whining about although national and state laws vary on the subject.
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Don't know on that one way or the other. But my point isn't about them whining. It's about fair and equal and how contract law works across the board.

Only a Leftist, femtard, or manhole would say men must always pay when it comes to child support. That is the position of someone who is totally clueless and probably hates men in general, like you.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Don't know on that one way or the other. But my point isn't about them whining. It's about fair and equal and how contract law works across the board.

Only a Leftist, femtard, or manhole would say men must always pay when it comes to child support. That is the position of someone who is totally clueless and probably hates men in general, like you.
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Quote who has said such a thing, Terry. If you can't, I understand. I also understand your hatred and paranoia of me along with your abandoning your oath to serve your Orange Jesus.

The fact I agreed with you in my initial post, and then you went into full attack mode is just another indication of your deteriorating mental state.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Disagreed. The parents should work this out between themselves or use a court to rule. Additionally, if the mother lives in a state with abortion available, and that state says it's a mother's right to choose, and her decision alone, then men in paternity suits should not have to pay child support whatsoever as they had no say in the child's birth.
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You're saying that in a state where abortion is available, men should have the right to demand that the woman have an abortion.
 
christiefan915 said:
You're saying that in a state where abortion is available, men should have the right to demand that the woman have an abortion.
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Yes. It should be "A couple's right to choose."

If he wants an abortion and she doesn't, then the child is hers and hers alone. The man has no further part in this.
If both want it, then they work out the arrangements on that mutually.
If she wants an abortion and he doesn't, then she carries the baby to term with him paying ALL medical expenses and the child is turned over to him once born and viable. She has no further responsibility.
If they are legally married, then they have to decide mutually on the outcome.

That's fair and equal. Both get an equal say on the outcome.
 
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