"Grrr I hate it so much when loans are forgiven"

some citizens dont' pay taxes, so theoretically theyre not paying until they are taxpayers aka "making money".:

You're the one who started with the taxpayers, idiot.

After being fucking DEAD WRONG about the number of taxpayers, instead of apologizing and acknowledging your fuckup, you try to retcon it.

50M people is 17% of all citizens, not the 5% you were wrong about earlier.

The reason your argument falls apart is because you're a fucking idiot.
 
You're the one who started with the taxpayers, idiot.

After being fucking DEAD WRONG about the number of taxpayers, instead of apologizing and acknowledging your fuckup, you try to retcon it.

50M people is 17% of all citizens, not the 5% you were wrong about earlier.

The reason your argument falls apart is because you're a fucking idiot.

citizens may or may not be taxpayers.

once again you seize upon idiotic word games.

the point is the banker bailout goes on the national debt.

you're quibbling over the words to describe who pays the national debate.

that's because you're a moron.
 
odd......I remember being ticked off over the PPP program that Pelosi and the demmycrats pushed through Congress.......wasn't everyone?.......

Well then you must have the same long COVID brain disorder that Flash does, because the Democrats were calling for oversight of the loan program and Republicans opposed that.

Democrats accuse SBA of illegally blocking oversight of lending program
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/17/sba-gao-ppp-democrats-326734

PPP Loans for Billions Have Fraud Risk, Oversight Panel Says
https://news.bloombergtax.com/daily...llions-at-risk-for-fraud-oversight-panel-says

Congress Steps Up Pressure as Trump Administration Evades Bailout Oversight
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/15/us/politics/coronavirus-ppp-trump-congress.html

Everything you say on JPP turns out to be a lie.
 
see?......this is why the demmycunts shouldn't have passed that piece of shit law.....and you folks still vote for them.....

You and Trump were in full support of PPP, and it was passed by a GOP-Controlled Senate and signed into law by a GOP President.

So now you're trying to make yourself look better despite the fact that there is not ONE SINGLE POST OF YOURS from 2020-present that criticized the PPP program until this thread.
 
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Stolen memes are all you can do because you're not clever enough to come up with your own.
 
citizens may or may not be taxpayers.

once again you seize upon idiotic word games.

the point is the banker bailout goes on the national debt.

you're quibbling over the words to describe who pays the national debate.

that's because you're a moron.

Gee that sure is a lot of words to say "I was fucking wrong, and I have no idea what I'm talking about".
 
So your city has no plan, you have no plan, you have no idea what you're talking about, and you're just searching for a way to get the last word in without contributing anything meaningful to the debate.

Forgiving student debt for 15M people, and capping payments for another 35M more will be an economic stimulus that will create jobs and raise revenue.

The economy gains NOTHING by having people pay student loans, but it does gain quite a bit if instead of paying the loans, those borrowers spend money in the consumer market or buy a house.

Home construction is one of the highest economic multipliers, along with direct government spending; for every 1 home constructed, there are at least three jobs created.

But you know what has never created a job? Tax cuts. Low taxes. Neither have ever created any jobs...in fact, those low taxes and tax cuts have COST JOBS, like what happened when the Russia Tax Cut that you supported caused manufacturing to lose 300,000 jobs and fall into a recession for all of 2019.

The last two Republican Presidents lost net private sector jobs after their tax cuts.

So at what point do you finally accept that your entire premise is wrong? What is it gonna take for you to accept that? Or will you ever accept it? Will you simply just close your mind off because of the hit your ego will take? I think so. I think you're that petty and desperate.


The country should be a utopia now based on your theory that government borrowing to let people consume stuff improves the economy. Instead, the trillions spent in borrowing and stimulus spending by Obama-Trump-Biden has resulted in exactly what economics says will happen--inflation. Too much money in the economy results in demand outstripping supply. Excusing student and PPP loans gives those people more money to spend increasing inflation even more.

This is a continuous cycle until we are bankrupt. But, as long as we can buy more stuff everybody is happy.
 
Government spending is the best and most reliable form of economic stimulus there is.

The multiplier effect from government direct spending is higher than any other form of economic stimulus, including tax cuts.

It is 100% clear to anyone paying attention that the private sector leeches off the government and the workers, not the other way around.

The private sector leeches off the government because of all the government programs that allows private and NGOs to get wealthy off the taxpayers. Consultant fees alone are a boondoggle. Taxpayers should not be ripped off by government or private sectors. That only happens with less government spending that requires borrowing to give money to a doctor for a 15 minute office visit.
 
Right, so this is just you saying you know nothing about these programs and agencies, only that you know you don't like them for whatever stupid reason (though I'm 100% positive you've taken advantage of them in the past), you're trying to justify your anti-democratic and anti-social nature and compulsions by pretending you care about the fraud...fraud that wouldn't exist with a fulsome, fully funded enforcement and operational department to monitor and police it.

I used to be as idealistic and naive as you are about government spending until spending many years in a variety of different programs. That waste is built into many of those programs intentionally or unintentionally. If you had any experience in government programs you would not be so naive.
 
No, it's your way of saying you don't know anything about the programs and you're too fucking lazy to put in the effort, which is why you instinctually and compulsively leave it to broad percentage cuts which includes operation and enforcement.

So what happens is that you cut the spending on the program, which turns the program dysfunctional, which you then use as an excuse to get rid of the program entirely.

It's fiscal terrorism.

You deliberately harm the programs effectiveness through stupid broad cuts because you know nothing about the program, and thus don't know how much of it entails operations and enforcement.. So you use the deficits your low taxes result in as the excuse for further cuts.

You don't give a flying fuck about enforcement, fraud, operations, or making an agency functional because it runs in direct conflict with your anti-democratic nature.

You are pretty stupid to call me anti-democratic when we have already established your fascist tendencies by opposing free speech and expression for those with political views you find obnoxious. It shows a basic misunderstanding of rule by law, limited government, and basic liberties.
 
Well then you must have the same long COVID brain disorder that Flash does, because the Democrats were calling for oversight of the loan program and Republicans opposed that.

Democrats accuse SBA of illegally blocking oversight of lending program
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/17/sba-gao-ppp-democrats-326734

PPP Loans for Billions Have Fraud Risk, Oversight Panel Says
https://news.bloombergtax.com/daily...llions-at-risk-for-fraud-oversight-panel-says

Congress Steps Up Pressure as Trump Administration Evades Bailout Oversight
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/15/us/politics/coronavirus-ppp-trump-congress.html

Everything you say on JPP turns out to be a lie.

its a pity Nancy wasn't in control of the House......
 
its a pity Nancy wasn't in control of the House......

Pelosi repeatedly had to make the same decisions. To get a bill that America absolutely needed past the Republican Senate, and trump, would she be willing to allow hundreds of billions in Republican pork in? It was a regrettable decision, but I think she did the right thing.
 
Pelosi repeatedly had to make the same decisions. To get a bill that America absolutely needed past the Republican Senate, and trump, would she be willing to allow hundreds of billions in Republican pork in? It was a regrettable decision, but I think she did the right thing.

she's the one that created the hundreds of billions in pork........just like she did this year.....
 
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