Gun Registration Fails...So Sorry...LOL

Lucius Cornelius Sulla said:
No, it wasn't implemented until the 40's, but it was part of his rhetoric as early as Mien Kampf. Anti-Semitism in general was a common part of German culture at the time and was readily accepted and encouraged.
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Hitler and the Final Solution, Gerald Fleming (Author)

The author argues Intentionalism v. Functionalism.

"... First, Fleming, though he does an excellent job in pinpointing Hitler's responsibility and knowledge of everything pertaining to genocide, argues a far-reaching theory known as "Intentionalism." This school of thought - now largely in a minority - believe that Hitler was set in his views about murdering the Jews of Europe from the very beginning of his political life (the 1920s). By the time he became Chancellor in 1933, all he needed was the right moment to lash out.

This idea is a negative, as the exhaustive efforts of historians like Christopher R. Browning and Richard Breitman, have demonstrated (and provided overwhelming evidence) that Nazi Jewish policy emerged more as a solution amidst a series of failures and frustration in somehow getting Jews out of Europe rather than as a premeditated plan. This school of thought, of which the reviewer considers himself to be a member, is called "Functionalism."
 
Steelplate said:
Any responses?

BTW....just out of curiosity....how does your proposal work with private or internet sales?
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Internet sales go to a dealer already so.....yeah that was never an issue. Private sales are the only affected by this background check thing. FFLs HAVE to do a background check every time. That's been the law since the 60's.
 
Lucius Cornelius Sulla said:
Internet sales go to a dealer already so.....yeah that was never an issue. Private sales are the only affected by this background check thing. FFLs HAVE to do a background check every time. That's been the law since the 60's.
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Craigslist? EBay? Those are BOTH private and internet. What is in place to stop a private citizen such as myself, to spend $100k on various weaponry that say....gangbangers desire, and putting them up on Craigslist? The honor system?

Another question....Is the current check strong enough? honestly asking both of these questions...snarky "honor system" touche aside.
 
Steelplate said:
Craigslist? EBay?
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And neither allow the sale of guns. Of course you could try and ship a gun, but then you'd have to declare it at the shipping point and they only ship to FFLs so....yeah, moot point.

Another question....Is the current check strong enough? honestly asking both of these questions...snarky "honor system" touche aside.
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It checks for felonies, domestic violence, restraining orders, and anything submitted by mental health places. What more do you want?
 
Lucius Cornelius Sulla said:
And neither allow the sale of guns. Of course you could try and ship a gun, but then you'd have to declare it at the shipping point and they only ship to FFLs so....yeah, moot point.

It checks for felonies, domestic violence, restraining orders, and anything submitted by mental health places. What more do you want?
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CL and ebay were only two examples....you mean to tell me there are not similar sites where you can buy/sell guns privately?

To the second part....adequacy.

Sorry man....you definitely have a biased opinion on this....so I find it difficult to just take your word at face value.
 
Steelplate said:
CL and ebay were only two examples....you mean to tell me there are not similar sites where you can buy/sell guns privately?
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You mean like www.gunbroker.com? Gotta go through an FFL. That's how the mail works. And the FFL is required to do a background check. The internet sale is a made up issue meant to scare people who are proles.

To the second part....adequacy.

Sorry man....you definitely have a biased opinion on this....so I find it difficult to just take your word at face value.
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Then prove me wrong. All the bias in the world won't change facts, and those facts confirm everything I say.
 
Steelplate said:
What about Armslist or gunlife.org?
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Armslist works one of two ways. You either meet in person, like any other private sale, or you have to ship the gun. If you ship the gun, it does to an FFL. You and I can arrange a sale right now, still has to go to an FFL. As for gunlife, I wouldn't know as I've never heard of it, but I'll put money down that it works exactly the same way.

And I was correct, works the exact same way.
 
Lucius Cornelius Sulla said:
Exactly, no one was talking an Amendment. But that's the process required.
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those lousy constitutional protections, always bitch slapping the liberals. pretty funny how the roadblocks built into our system have worked flawlessly, i.e. not letting appeals to emotion and crybaby antics do away with constitutional rights so frivolously. liberals HATE that though. They hate that they just can't steamroll their agenda over the constitution. their frustration makes me giddy.
 
Skeleton Jelly said:
those lousy constitutional protections, always bitch slapping the liberals. pretty funny how the roadblocks built into our system have worked flawlessly, i.e. not letting appeals to emotion and crybaby antics do away with constitutional rights so frivolously. liberals HATE that though. They hate that they just can't steamroll their agenda over the constitution. their frustration makes me giddy.
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Proof positive, as if any was even needed, that reason and logic shall always prevail over emotion.

And as if a great omen, today I got On Liberty by J.S. Mill.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
nobody is an angel whose judgement should be trusted. rights are rights because they cannot be compromised upon, only surrendered.
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they dont get it sty, at heart they are takers, and all they do is take, including taking rights. To leave well enough alone or let people breathe without the government measuring ones air input is a completely alien concept to them. "What..... you want.... people... to...be free?.... whaaa?" It totally blows their mind, we are speaking a different language.

All they are used to is making rules and regulations and telling people what to do. When you tell them to fuck off and that you aren't giving an inch, they simply aren't able to comprehend what you are saying at all.
 
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SJJRSJJS said:
Nazi Germany first registered all the guns in 1935, they then confiscated all private guns in 1938. After the end of WW2, the surviving Jews were asked why they did not fight back....answer...."because we had no guns". Germany avoided invading tiny Switzerland because it was mandatory for every Swiss Citizen to own a gun, and basically still is.
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um.... that was like 70 years ago. Haven't you heard? The world is perfect now. Shit like that will never happen ever ever ever ever again.
 
Thing1 said:
The Constitution definitely represents a social contract.

And you can't bend the truth to fit your worldview. Slander isn't free speech because it is restricted speech. We don't allow slander; it's a kind of speech we say isn't legal. So, it is a limitation on the right.

You just don't want to accept the analogy, because it means you can't apply an unlimited interpretation of the only right you seem to care about.
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freedom of speech and the first amendment in general is in the context of being able to speak politically, to not be thrown in jail for ones opinions or ideals, to be able to petition the government, to have a free press, to be a free people. slander and libel (maliciously telling lies against an individual or group) has nothing to do with any of that.
 
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Lucius Cornelius Sulla said:
Why wouldn't you? Are you implying that the state acts only for the good of all? What do you think all the other Amendments (the first ten anyways) are about?
Every nation would apply. The inherent nature of government is to grow and increase its power at the expense of the rights of the citizenry.
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lmao... I know, right over the takers head....

1st amendment . . . government can't make laws against speech, people have a free press, etc.

3rd amendment, sorry government, can't force your fucking troops in my house

4th amendment, sorry government, you can't look through my shit without a warrant.

5th amendment, sorry government, you can't force me to testify against myself, can't deprive me of due process

8th amendment, sorry government, you can't torture us or being excessively cruel.

"2nd amendment? Where in the constitution is there a precedent for distrusting the government????!?!? what does the 2nd amendment have to do with protecting oneself against the government? where does that come from? What is this?

I, as a taker believe that in spite of the entire context of the bill of rights limiting the governments power, and putting checks on the government, that the second amendment stands alone to only apply to personal self defense and nothing else!"
 
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