Habeas Corpus Restoration Act needs your voice!

USC do you remember the days when Bush voters could be counted on to defend warrantless wiretapping, suspension of habeus corpus, the Iraq war, etc? I'm hearing nothing but crickets now. ;)

Yeah now they are more concerned about schools in hugoland :D
 
O'reily is all over this fillibuster and gridlock stuff ?


I'm sure.

And when the Republicans filibuster the Webb Amendment, which will be the third filibuster in as many votes, I'm sure Bill and everyone else will wail on an on about the obstructionist G.O.P.
 
I'm sure.

And when the Republicans filibuster the Webb Amendment, which will be the third filibuster in as many votes, I'm sure Bill and everyone else will wail on an on about the obstructionist G.O.P.

I am certain he will being an independent and all that :rolleyes:
 
Hmmm... I didn't realize that this Act was a Judicial Nomination. As far as I understand it, those were the only ones objected to....

Of course I don't watch the show so I can't be sure on that one.
 
Whilst registering a troll I came upon this, Damo:

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And fuck you, you goddamn cunt, I'm going to get 10 black men to go to your house, surround you, and assrape you.

Thankyou, that's all.
 
Well, I wrote to Senator Martinez, but then I realized that today is Wednesday, not Tuesday, and I am more than likely a day late and a dollar (or in political terms a million dollars) short.

Sorry ViolaLee... had I seen this yesterday maybe my email would have made a difference... nah! Who am I trying to kid?

Immie
 
Well, I wrote to Senator Martinez, but then I realized that today is Wednesday, not Tuesday, and I am more than likely a day late and a dollar (or in political terms a million dollars) short.

Sorry ViolaLee... had I seen this yesterday maybe my email would have made a difference... nah! Who am I trying to kid?

Immie

You right THIS:


And fuck you, you goddamn cunt, I'm going to get 10 black men to go to your house, surround you, and assrape you.

To senator Martinez? Immature, Immanuel. I have to say, I'm dissapointed in you.
 
You right THIS:


And fuck you, you goddamn cunt, I'm going to get 10 black men to go to your house, surround you, and assrape you.

To senator Martinez? Immature, Immanuel. I have to say, I'm dissapointed in you.

Watermark,

That made zero sense... what the Hell were you trying to say?

Immie
 
Nice work people, but the amendment failed. The Republicans, once again, blocked the amendment by filibuster. The amendment failed to get the 60 votes needed to invoke cloture, 56-43.

Let me know if you see the word "filibuster" in any media accounts. Strangely, the word filibuster seems to only be used when the Democrats are in the minority. When Republicans do it, the word is rarely, if ever, used.
I don't belong to either major party, nor do I particularly like either. This doesn't mean I think they're exactly equivalent, however.

Democrats filibuster presidential nominees whom they think are corrupt or otherwise unfit for office. Republicans filibuster restoration of habeas corpus. That pretty well says it, right there.

Republicans are anti-freedom.
 
We all know you're green at heart. Too bad that guy lost in San Fransisico - a Green getting 49% of the votes is amazing. And a Green losing because the other guy promised merely to be "tougher on crime" is a travesty.
 
We all know you're green at heart. Too bad that guy lost in San Fransisico - a Green getting 49% of the votes is amazing. And a Green losing because the other guy promised merely to be "tougher on crime" is a travesty.
'Struth. Gavin's an annoying pustule, no matter how you slice it: a cynical politician's cynical politician. He's charismatic as all hell, though, and Tony Gonzalez, while an admirable wonk, comes across like the nerdy guy who always ate by himself in the farthest corner of the quad. He probably was that guy, come to think of it. He makes Al Gore look exciting.
 
Wow... shameful display for the Republican Party.

And you call yourself supporters of liberty...

This is the single best bill drafted by the Democrats this Congress and you shot it down.
 
I don't belong to either major party, nor do I particularly like either. This doesn't mean I think they're exactly equivalent, however.

I feel similarly about the Republican Party, but I believe I like them less than you do the Democrats.

Republican rhetoric is great. Republican governance, considerably less so. Both, however, are often preferable to increased taxes and expansion of the state, though obviously both these travesties are bipartisan.
 
Strange. I don't see any Republicans defending what their party is doing.

Well, I wrote to Senator Martinez, but then I realized that today is Wednesday, not Tuesday, and I am more than likely a day late and a dollar (or in political terms a million dollars) short.

Sorry ViolaLee... had I seen this yesterday maybe my email would have made a difference... nah! Who am I trying to kid?

Immie
Immanuel, write to them anyway....Leahy and Dodd are going to try it again. They aren't giving up until the constitution is restored.

Our founding fathers thought habeas corpus was the most important amendment for our liberty and republic. Hamilton would accuse Bush of being a despot today.

Here is what Alexander Hamilton said in the Federalist Papers.

Bill of Rights

Document 7

Alexander Hamilton, Federalist, no. 84, 575--81

28 May 1788

The establishment of the writ of habeas corpus, the prohibition of ex post facto laws, and of TITLES OF NOBILITY, to which we have no corresponding provisions in our constitution, are perhaps greater securities to liberty and republicanism than any it contains. The creation of crimes after the commission of the fact, or in other words, the subjecting of men to punishment for things which, when they were done, were breaches of no law, and the practice of arbitrary imprisonments have been in all ages the favourite and most formidable instruments of tyranny. The observations of the judicious Blackstone in reference to the latter, are well worthy of recital. "To bereave a man of life (says he) or by violence to confiscate his estate, without accusation or trial, would be so gross and notorious an act of despotism, as must at once convey the alarm of tyranny throughout the whole nation; but confinement of the person by secretly hurrying him to goal, where his sufferings are unknown or forgotten, is a less public, a less striking, and therefore a more dangerous engine of arbitrary government."
 
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