Hamas agrees to most of TRUMP peace plan

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Hamas accepts Trump peace plan ending 2 years of war in Gaza, returning hostages​


Hamas welcomes parts of US proposal for ending Gaza war, says it’s prepared to free all hostages, but seeks follow-up talks​


Netanyahu hopes to announce release of all hostages from Gaza "in the coming days" after Hamas agreed to parts of Trump peace plan​

 

Hamas accepts Trump peace plan ending 2 years of war in Gaza, returning hostages​


Hamas welcomes parts of US proposal for ending Gaza war, says it’s prepared to free all hostages, but seeks follow-up talks​


Netanyahu hopes to announce release of all hostages from Gaza "in the coming days" after Hamas agreed to parts of Trump peace plan​

Good, if it works out trump will deserve Kudos. Sadly, Qatar, who gave trump a 747 is trump's ally. Qatar just happens to be Hamas' biggest donor.

Like I say - I hope it works out.
 

Hamas accepts Trump peace plan ending 2 years of war in Gaza, returning hostages​


Hamas welcomes parts of US proposal for ending Gaza war, says it’s prepared to free all hostages, but seeks follow-up talks​


Netanyahu hopes to announce release of all hostages from Gaza "in the coming days" after Hamas agreed to parts of Trump peace plan​


If it works, what are the odds it will last for any length of time?

How many Middle East peace plans have there been over the past 50 years which have all ended with the return of fighting and violence?

If you're only cheering about this because it gives you an excuse to praise trump, you don't really give a shit about peace or an end to the bloodshed over there.
 
If it works, what are the odds it will last for any length of time?

How many Middle East peace plans have there been over the past 50 years which have all ended with the return of fighting and violence?

If you're only cheering about this because it gives you an excuse to praise trump, you don't really give a shit about peace or an end to the bloodshed over there.
It likely won't and there'll be a rematch in about a decade. The Palestinians will lose again. Gaza will be flattened again. Then the cycle will repeat until the Palestinians either seek real peace (never happening) or they're all wiped out and Gaza is bulldozed into the sea.
 
It likely won't and there'll be a rematch in about a decade. The Palestinians will lose again. Gaza will be flattened again. Then the cycle will repeat until the Palestinians either seek real peace (never happening) or they're all wiped out and Gaza is bulldozed into the sea.


Why allow the cycle to continue? Why allow more innocent Israelis to die at the hands of hate-filled war-criminal Terrorists?

IMHO, in the Oct7 attack, all Arabs (Palestinians) forever disqualified themselves from living in Gaza ever again. They can leave or die.

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Why allow the cycle to continue? Why allow more innocent Israelis to die at the hands of hate-filled war-criminal Terrorists?

IMHO, in the Oct7 attack, all Arabs (Palestinians) forever disqualified themselves from living in Gaza ever again. They can leave or die.

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I've said that all along. Let them fight until they don't want to fight anymore. If that means everyone in Gaza dies, sobeit.
 
It likely won't and there'll be a rematch in about a decade. The Palestinians will lose again.
Figures right-wing extremist dictator lovers see it from one side only.

Here's an alternative idea... how about Israel stop annexing Palestinian land and building Jewish settlements on it?

How about they offer to go back to or nearer to the 1967 border?

And BTW, when has a religion ever been handed its own country on a silver platter?

Why can't you understand why Palestinians are pissed off and keep engaging in aggression that has been conveniently labeled as terrorism?

Simpletons on the right want to claim Islam is "evil" because that level of stupid is all the right can understand.
Gaza will be flattened again. Then the cycle will repeat until the Palestinians either seek real peace (never happening) or they're all wiped out and Gaza is bulldozed into the sea.

That's what you're praying for because like all right-wing Muslim haters, Islam is "evil".
 
Why allow the cycle to continue? Why allow more innocent Israelis to die at the hands of hate-filled war-criminal Terrorists?

IMHO, in the Oct7 attack, all Arabs (Palestinians) forever disqualified themselves from living in Gaza ever again. They can leave or die.

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I've said that all along. Let them fight until they don't want to fight anymore. If that means everyone in Gaza dies, sobeit.

Right-wing "Christians". :palm:
 
Figures right-wing extremist dictator lovers see it from one side only.

Here's an alternative idea... how about Israel stop annexing Palestinian land and building Jewish settlements on it?

How about they offer to go back to or nearer to the 1967 border?

And BTW, when has a religion ever been handed its own country on a silver platter?

Why can't you understand why Palestinians are pissed off and keep engaging in aggression that has been conveniently labeled as terrorism?

Simpletons on the right want to claim Islam is "evil" because that level of stupid is all the right can understand.


That's what you're praying for because like all right-wing Muslim haters, Islam is "evil".
That's what the Palestinians get for being poor and stupid. That's their fault and nobody else's. They suck at fighting wars, yet they keep starting them. They fight each other too.

Give one Palestinian a gun, you get a massacre. Give two Palestinians guns, you get a war.

They're their own worst enemy. Why should I bother to fix their problems when they are unwilling and unable to put in any effort on their own?
 
Good, if it works out trump will deserve Kudos. Sadly, Qatar, who gave trump a 747 is trump's ally. Qatar just happens to be Hamas' biggest donor.

Like I say - I hope it works out.
Yep Trump has twisted Qatar's arm and they twisted Hamas' arm. And THAT helped bring Hamas to the negotiating table.
 
Yep Trump has twisted Qatar's arm and they twisted Hamas' arm. And THAT helped bring Hamas to the negotiating table.
I hope it works out - if it does - and there is a two-state solution and peace in both Israel and Palestine then trump will deserve credit - just for being president when it happened. Reagan got credit for the fall of the USSR - but the reality is - they just happened to go broke during his administration.
 
I hope it works out - if it does - and there is a two-state solution and peace in both Israel and Palestine then trump will deserve credit - just for being president when it happened. Reagan got credit for the fall of the USSR - but the reality is - they just happened to go broke during his administration.
No, Reagan made them go broke. Reagan started a massive arms race and build up. US military spending hit nearly 10% which is wartime levels. The Soviets, to keep up, went over 30% of their GDP. It broke the economy and the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact collapsed in economic ruin.

Out of that, the biggest black marketers and other grey owners of the economy outside the government became the mega-rich oligarchs in Russia. The amount of corruption didn't go down. It just got legalized.

In the US this resulted in higher-than-normal inflation. Clinton got the benefit out of this of being able to cut military spending massively to about 3 to 4% of the GDP and achieved a balanced budget for once out of it.
 
I hope it works out - if it does - and there is a two-state solution and peace in both Israel and Palestine then trump will deserve credit - just for being president when it happened. Reagan got credit for the fall of the USSR - but the reality is - they just happened to go broke during his administration.
So ignorant of world history. Reagan specifically spent the USSR into bankruptcy by expanding our military and they could not match our spending.. The USSR collapsed on Dec 26 of 1991 and Bush was in office at the time. Bush was in office from 1/20/1989 to 1/20/1993.
 
So ignorant of world history. Reagan specifically spent the USSR into bankruptcy by expanding our military and they could not match our spending.. The USSR collapsed on Dec 26 of 1991 and Bush was in office at the time. Bush was in office from 1/20/1989 to 1/20/1993.
No, Reagan made them go broke. Reagan started a massive arms race and build up. US military spending hit nearly 10% which is wartime levels. The Soviets, to keep up, went over 30% of their GDP. It broke the economy and the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact collapsed in economic ruin.

Out of that, the biggest black marketers and other grey owners of the economy outside the government became the mega-rich oligarchs in Russia. The amount of corruption didn't go down. It just got legalized.

In the US this resulted in higher-than-normal inflation. Clinton got the benefit out of this of being able to cut military spending massively to about 3 to 4% of the GDP and achieved a balanced budget for once out of it.
Reagan was a great cheerleader for the fall of the USSR. Congress is not hard to convince to spend money on the military - never have been, never will be.

Reagan was a great orator/cheerleader. Nothing more.
 

"Reagan’s policy toward the Soviet Union was thus far less consistent than most of his admirers would admit. Although his meetings with Soviet dissidents pushed him toward confrontation, his knowledge of what a nuclear war would entail tempered him toward cooperation. He did not bring about Gorbachev’s reforms, much less force the collapse of the Soviet Union."


"Reagan Didn’t Win the Cold War"
 
That's what the Palestinians get for being poor and stupid. That's their fault and nobody else's. They suck at fighting wars, yet they keep starting them. They fight each other too.

Give one Palestinian a gun, you get a massacre. Give two Palestinians guns, you get a war.

They're their own worst enemy. Why should I bother to fix their problems when they are unwilling and unable to put in any effort on their own?
Totally ignorant post that represents the ideas of someone who doesn't even try to see both sides because it's obvious that he's made up his mind that he despises one and makes excuses for the other.
I am not a Christian.

I am not Right Wing. I am a bit like Joe Rogan... I was a leftie, until the Lefties went so far to the Radical Left, that now I am a slightly Right of Center Libertarian lean.

This is not Left, this is Radical, Insane Left:
The entire left is not like that. We are not overrun by our loonies.

There used to be a radical, insane right too

Now they're just the mainstream right.

Still radical and insane, but now they represent the vast majority of the Republican Party.
I was a Democrat for 32 Years. I am no longer a Democrat.

From the Democrats (emphatically): "THANK YOU!!!"
 

"Reagan’s policy toward the Soviet Union was thus far less consistent than most of his admirers would admit. Although his meetings with Soviet dissidents pushed him toward confrontation, his knowledge of what a nuclear war would entail tempered him toward cooperation. He did not bring about Gorbachev’s reforms, much less force the collapse of the Soviet Union."


"Reagan Didn’t Win the Cold War"
BUSH WAS IN OFFICE WHEN THE USSR FINALLY COLLAPSED but Reagan started the process.

Reagan accelerated the collapse of the Soviet Union.

AI Overview


Ronald Reagan helped end the Cold War through a multi-faceted approach of military, economic, and diplomatic pressure on the Soviet Union
. His strategy, often summarized as "peace through strength," aimed to exploit the Soviet system's weaknesses and negotiate with a position of overwhelming leverage.

Reagan and the Vatican supported the Solidarity movement which aided Poland to pull out of the USSR. That started a domino effect of USSR losing its satellite states and damaged the USSR economy.
 
Totally ignorant post that represents the ideas of someone who doesn't even try to see both sides because it's obvious that he's made up his mind that he despises one and makes excuses for the other.

The entire left is not like that. We are not overrun by our loonies.

There used to be a radical, insane right too

Now they're just the mainstream right.

Still radical and insane, but now they represent the vast majority of the Republican Party.


From the Democrats (emphatically): "THANK YOU!!!"


Show me photos of Republicans carrying Signs that read "Smash the Black Man March"!

Show me the Photos of Republicans carrying signs that read "All my Heroes Kill Illegals"!

Show me the Photos of Republicans Calling Execution of "Climate Change Believers"!

Show me the MainStream Right who is egging on Civil-war!

You Can't!

I didn't leave the Democrats, they left America and its values. They are now nothing but pawns of the Radical Globalist Ethnocentric Marxists.

So many good, honest, peaceful, law-abiding, Democrats have left the party, that the Democrats can no longer win any election without massive vote fraud.

The Left destroyed itself.

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Reagan was a great cheerleader for the fall of the USSR. Congress is not hard to convince to spend money on the military - never have been, never will be.

Reagan was a great orator/cheerleader. Nothing more.
Reagan and the Vatican supported the Solidarity movement and that enabled Poland to pull out of the USSR.

AI Poland was never a constituent republic of the Soviet Union, but rather a satellite state under its political and military control. While Poland's move toward democracy in 1989 did not single-handedly cause the USSR's collapse, it did trigger a chain reaction across Eastern Europe that significantly accelerated the Soviet Union's eventual dissolution in 1991.

The Holy Alliance: Ronald Reagan and John Paul II

The operation was focused on Poland, the most populous of the Soviet satellites in Eastern Europe and the birthplace of John Paul II. Both the Pope and the President were convinced that Poland could be broken out of the Soviet orbit if the Vatican and the U.S. committed their resources to destabilizing the Polish government and keeping the outlawed Solidarity movement alive after the declaration of martial law in 1981.

Until Solidarity’s legal status was restored in 1989 it flourished underground, supplied, nurtured and advised largely by the network established under the auspices of Reagan and John Paul II. Tons of equipment — fax machines (the first in Poland), printing presses, transmitters, telephones, shortwave radios, video cameras, photocopiers, telex machines, computers, word processors — were smuggled into Poland via channels established by priests and American agents and representatives of the AFL-CIO and European labor movements. Money for the banned union came from CIA funds, the National Endowment for Democracy, secret accounts in the Vatican and Western trade unions.
 
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