Not that I know of. They "chased" the deceased because they believe he was a burglar.
Hate crime or self defense?
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Not that I know of. They "chased" the deceased because they believe he was a burglar.
Irrelevant.
I have trouble pondering the depths of the dumbness it takes to declare the failure of the Supreme Court irrelevant.
The Supreme Court can only rule on matters that have worked their way through the appellate courts. It's a moot point when discussing the current state of affairs.
Mitchell, 508 U.S. 476 (1993.
Now, quit trolling my thread, or I will ask a moderator to remove you.
"According to an incident report filed by Glynn County police, Arbery was shot after two men spotted him running in their neighborhood on a Sunday afternoon.
Gregory McMichael told police that he and his adult son thought the runner matched the description of someone caught on a security camera committing a recent break-in in the neighborhood.
They armed themselves with guns before getting in a truck to pursue him.
The father said his son, Travis McMichael, got out of the truck holding a shotgun, and Arbery "began to violently attack."
He said Arbery was shot as the two men fought over the shotgun, according to the police report.
After Arbery was shot, the police report says, Gregory McMichael turned him onto his back to see if he was armed.
The report doesn't say whether he had a weapon".
https://abc13.com/man-jogging-georgia-shooting-arbery-in/6156175/
Gregory McMichael told police that he and his adult son thought the runner matched the description of someone caught on a security camera committing a recent break-in in the neighborhood.
They armed themselves with guns before getting in a truck to pursue him.
The father said his son, Travis McMichael, got out of the truck holding a shotgun, and Arbery "began to violently attack."
He said Arbery was shot as the two men fought over the shotgun, according to the police report.
After Arbery was shot, the police report says, Gregory McMichael turned him onto his back to see if he was armed.
The report doesn't say whether he had a weapon".
https://abc13.com/man-jogging-georgia-shooting-arbery-in/6156175/
The men targeted Arbery yet authorities waited more than two months to open an investigation, that's incomprehensible to me. Apparently in Brunswick GA you can kill an unarmed suspect with no qualms about having to explain your actions, as long as you say those magic words "I thought he was a burglar and I thought he was armed."
I read the DA's letter and he made a lot of assumptions that he didn't back up. He wrote: " It appears Travis McMichael, Greg McMichael, and Bryan William were following, in pursuit burglary suspect, with solid firsthand probable cause, in their neighborhood, and asking/telling him to stop. It appears their intent was to stop and hold this criminal suspect until law enforcement arrived.
The DA makes a lot of assumptions about what happened. If he had actual facts he wouldn't say how things "appeared," or that the men had "solid firsthand probable cause" to believe that the victim was a burglary suspect. He also assumed the intent of the men toward the victim. The victim was not a criminal suspect at this point, that was the excuse the men gave to follow him. If the law had opened a full investigation right after the shooting, the men would have been interviewed and we wouldn't be reading a secondhand account of it.
The DA also tries to blame the victim for his murder, saying that Arbery "initiated" the fight yet he ignores the fact that the two men took the law into their own hands rather than call the cops and wait for them to take action. Also, the DA takes pains to explain that open carry is legal in Brunswick when that's not the point, but a deflection.
This needs a grand jury called when it's safe to do so, IMO.
Killed for being a black man exercising.
Just the term itself is farcical; aren't all crimes hate crimes?
It's almost as dimwitted as wage inequality or guaranteed income.
Just the term itself is farcical; aren't all crimes hate crimes?
It's almost as dimwitted as wage inequality or guaranteed income.
Its almost they want want they want and they dont care much how they get it.
Sounds a lot like the MEMEMEMEMEMEMEME Generation dont it!
Well, we do know the guy who they followed had a criminal record.
If you had read the post Legion shared, you would have seen they have no record.
"Local law enforcement did its damndest to bury this story. In a letter obtained by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, a local prosecutor wrote to a local police captain (see post 14.)
That was their story and they were going to stick to it. Arbery “resembled” a suspect in a string of housebreaks and Greg and Travis McMichael, the two men who confronted and shot Arbery, were simply a couple of good citizens doing their duty under Georgia law. And it might have worked, too. Call it the George Zimmerman loophole. But then the video, which was shot by another man who had joined in the pursuit, got out into the world, and everything changed. The horrible events therein became common property. A nation in which the population had been living aquarium lives suddenly saw the ugliness of the outside world dripping in through its various screens.
"...if the video hadn’t appeared, Ahmaud Arbery’s killing would have simply blended into all the other news in the world beyond our enforced personal isolation. Hell, local law enforcement already had started an investigation—not into the shooting, but into the release of the video. Now there will be a real investigation, not some back-slapping farce between local sheriffs and local prosecutors. (The Glynn county district attorney had to recuse from the case because Greg McMichael had been a police officer and then an investigator for the DA’s office.) There is a chance for justice, a crack that lets the light in..."
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a32406723/ahmaud-arbery-killing-video-georgia/
That was their story and they were going to stick to it. Arbery “resembled” a suspect in a string of housebreaks and Greg and Travis McMichael, the two men who confronted and shot Arbery, were simply a couple of good citizens doing their duty under Georgia law. And it might have worked, too. Call it the George Zimmerman loophole. But then the video, which was shot by another man who had joined in the pursuit, got out into the world, and everything changed. The horrible events therein became common property. A nation in which the population had been living aquarium lives suddenly saw the ugliness of the outside world dripping in through its various screens.
"...if the video hadn’t appeared, Ahmaud Arbery’s killing would have simply blended into all the other news in the world beyond our enforced personal isolation. Hell, local law enforcement already had started an investigation—not into the shooting, but into the release of the video. Now there will be a real investigation, not some back-slapping farce between local sheriffs and local prosecutors. (The Glynn county district attorney had to recuse from the case because Greg McMichael had been a police officer and then an investigator for the DA’s office.) There is a chance for justice, a crack that lets the light in..."
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a32406723/ahmaud-arbery-killing-video-georgia/
jimmymccready
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The idea of whites killing blacks just excites many Americans.
O so only cops can shoot is self defense?
Killed for attacking a man with a gun!
The older McMichael was not a police office. He had been forced to resign due to frequent violent attacks on blacks. His son never was able to get on the police force, because of frequent violent attacks on blacks.
Pretending to be a police officer, and attacking people is a crime.
Couldn't reply because my vote is neither. I think this is probably manslaughter. To foment a citizens arrest, you need to have seen him commit a crime, or have probable cause. You don't have the right to stop someone and question unless you are a cop. The former cop and son acted very stupidly. IF they thought he committed a crime, they could have followed him and called 911.
I predict hung jury.