Hate crime or self defense?

Hate crime or self defense?


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Murder is a crime, not a conviction. Are you American?
So there's no such thing as a murder conviction?
Hate crime laws are garbage and they were to be used as a foot-in-the door to hatespeech laws.
There are no hatespeech laws in America.
Agreed. It shouldn't matter if you murdered someone for sleeping with you wife or because you don't like Jews. Murder is murder and it's heinous no matter what your motive was.

Hate speech is an attempt a thought control.
If all men are created equal, there is no need for hatecrime laws. A crime is a crime.
100% Agree.
Hatecrime laws also bigly serve as a wedge between black and white Americans.

:awesome: Could not resist teh "bigly". :troll:
lol.
 
:) Grabbing the WRONG end of a shotgun is probably NOT the Best Move. (?)

It could go off 'accidentally'. Or make a person feel like he is being 'robbed'. Or ... make a person 'fear for his Life'.

The victim obviously acted out of shock, adrenalin and fear without much time to contemplate wtf these rednecks wanted with him.
 
The Black man feared for his life when the two racist fucks approached him with guns.

Should he have just stood there and obeyed their command or try to defend himself?

False dichotomy, he could have run away. Was the guy a runner, or not?
 
It was an observation, and I made it.
No it's an attempt to argue that nobody can have any opinions without being an expert.

Which case I would present that you're not a psychologist so therefore you can't determine whether this is a hate crime or not.
 
Instead he attacked an armed man.

That's not a good idea. I would have run away. He was not cornered. I have been cornered by guys with weapons claiming I did something when I didn't.
Not the nicest night of my life, I knew the one was a cop.
The weapons were shovels. Dude pulled right in front of me and popped out the back of a van.
Old man was all in my face..I'm like: "Please, put the shovel down and let's talk about this.".CLANG! He cracked me upside the head with it and I saw stars!
It was a spade and the point "stabbed" my neck muscle.
Then he went to hit me again and I grabbed that shovel and used it to pull him into a punch and knocked him down.
He had a death grip on that shovel and here comes the big cop..
Somehow..seconds later I have a mop in my hands from a neighbor's porch and they just left. The old man laid on the ground while the cop was coming at me. He was down for the count, cop boy was next, I'm not playing that crap.
 
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