Hate crime or self defense?

Hate crime or self defense?

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Jackoff said:
Ahmaud thought it was a good idea to stop ... and engage with his Inquisadors. Looking back ... Ahmaud would probably take a different tactic today.
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Perhaps, perhaps not.

Maybe he knew something the JPP second-guessers don't. You know that the elder McMathews had investigated him in the past, reportedly.

Legion said:
By WTOC Staff | May 7, 2020 at 8:15 PM EDT - Updated May 8 at 2:58 PM

GLYNN COUNTY, Ga. (WTOC) - Hinesville District Attorney Tom Durden made the decision Tuesday, May 5, that he thought the case should go to a grand jury after he was requested to review the case.

Durden is the third prosecutor to handle the case.

The Brunswick prosecutor recused herself immediately given the McMichaels’ connection to her office.

Gregory worked at the Glynn County Police Department in the 80s and spent more than two decades as an investigator with the Brunswick DA.

A second prosecutor, Waycross Judicial Circuit District Attorney George Barnhill, recused himself in early April.

The recusal letter from Barnhill provides more background details in the shooting of Arbery.

Barnhill wrote to the state attorney general that his son and Gregory McMichael had helped with a previous prosecution of Arbery.

It is not known if Gregory McMichael remembered or recognized Arbery at the time of the incident.

In the letter, Barnhill states that Arbery had a juvenile and felony record, as well as mentions Arbery’s family members that had a criminal history.



"Dear Ms Crittendon and McGowan:

Thank you again for emailing back. This is a case without any law enforcement warrants. I agreed to take the file from Jackie Johnson, the District Attorney in Glynn County, for review to see if it justified and arrest and/or presentation to a Glynn County Grand Jury.

Greg McMichael, a party/ witness in the matter, retired from law enforcement then worked at her office as an investigator for several years up until re-retiring about 10 months ago. His son, whom I have never met and do not know, is the shooter in this case. Ahmaud Arbery was shot and died in this confrontation.

Upon taking the case, my office began gathering the array of materials one normally gathers. My Chief Victim Assistant, Tammy Horlock, talked several times with Mr Arbery's family; I spoke to the mother once; Senior ADA Michelle McIntire was monitoring the collection of information through Capt. Tom Jump GPD. We had told the family it would take a month to 6 weeks to get the autopsy report. They apparently did not believe us. Note: Ms McIntire in my office received the autopsy April 2nd. I know they called the Attorney General Office sometime during this time.

My son works as an Assistant District Attorney for Jackie Johnson. Unknown to Jackie and me until about 3-4 weeks ago, he had handled a previous felony probation revocation and pleading Ahmaud Arbery to a felony in her Glynn County Office.

A local 'rabble rouser' has taken up this cause and begun publishing wild and factually incorrect and legally wrong accusations on Facebook and other social media formats calling for marches and physical affronts be made against the McMichaels at their homes, and my son's home in Brunswick etc.. . To date I have seen no direct connection between the 'rouser' and the family other than their increased calls for my office to be removed, that I must be biased.

This family are not strangers to the local criminal justice system. From best we can tell, Ahmauds older brother has gone to prison in the past and is currently in the Glynn jail, without bond, awaiting new felony prosecution. It also appears a cousin has been prosecuted by DA Johnson's office. Ahmaud, the deceased, had a juvenile and adult felony record.

In that regard, given the connection between myself and my son, and my son having worked with Greg McMichael for several years, and now known that he and Greg McMichael both helped with the previous prosecution of Arbery; I believe it is in the best interest of justice to recuse both myself and my office from this particular investigation.

In doing so I request another District Attorney be appointed to review the file and give advice to the Glynn County Police Department and determine whether there is anything justifying a presentation to a Glynn County Grand Jury.

I believe we have the majority of the information at our office.

There is a decent cell phone video of the entire shooting incident, also video of Arbery burglarizing a home immediately preceding the chase and confrontation.

We have a witness list and have done research we would include with the file to be available for the new prosecutor's use if desired.

Thank you for your help in this matter

George E Barnhill

District Attorney

Waycross Judicial Circuit"


https://www.wbtv.com/2020/05/07/gbi-men-charged-with-murder-ahmaud-arbery/
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Jack said:
Trying to grab a shotgun out of somebody's hands isn't too bright.
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If a guy stops and confronts you with a shotgun and you are afraid he is going to shoot you because he thinks you are a burglar, grabbing the gun may be the only self-defense you have.
 
Cinnabar said:
If two strangers are stalking you and trying to cut you with a vehicle, there are no guarantees as to where they will draw the line.
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If it was me, I'd probably go to some house and knock on the door and ask them to call the Police.
 
Flash said:
If a guy stops and confronts you with a shotgun and you are afraid he is going to shoot you because he thinks you are a burglar, grabbing the gun may be the only self-defense you have.
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:) Yeah. Next time someone pulls a gun on you, do that. Grab their gun from them.
 
christiefan915 said:
The two gun-carrying dolts approached him and demanded that he stop and listen to them. Do you really think turning your back on a loaded gun pointing at you is the smart thing to do?
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Yes. Lunging at the guy and grabbing his weapon is the more intelligent approach. I'm sure Police Officers recommend that tactic to the General Public.
 
christiefan915 said:
The two gun-carrying dolts approached him and demanded that he stop and listen to them. Do you really think turning your back on a loaded gun pointing at you is the smart thing to do?
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If he'd done that, who knows? He might still be alive. But you wouldn't want him to be alive, would you?
 
Legion said:
Perhaps, perhaps not.

Maybe he knew something the JPP second-guessers don't. You know that the elder McMathews had investigated him in the past, reportedly.
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Barnhill's letter is one of the most smug, complacent list of excuses I ever read. It was like something trump would write. Barnhill claims to have video of Arbery burglarizing a home immediately preceding the chase, yet Arbery wasn't carrying anything.
 
Jack said:
Yes. Lunging at the guy and grabbing his weapon is the more intelligent approach. I'm sure Police Officers recommend that tactic to the General Public.
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Look at the slow motion video and note that Travis approached Arbery, not the opposite. Travis was standing in the middle of the left lane and moved to the yellow line as Arbery came into view.
 
Jack said:
Maybe they thought they were in charge of something?
Let's say I'm a white guy wandering around with a shotgun in Watts, and I see you running around like you just stole a chicken, and I say "Hey Bitch, hold up there!"
Are you going to stop and wrestle with me over my shotgun?
Or, are you just going to keep running and figure you'll call 911 when you get home?
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Exactly!.......they felt they were in charge of that nigga running down the street and murdered him...........they knew they could get away with it.

Probably not the first time they did this either.
 
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