Have you ever held someone down and cut off their hair?

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Exactly. SF is really one of my fave rightie posters. He makes sense, even when I disagree w/ him.

But on this one, I can't figure out where he's coming from. How does anyone not picture this incident as anything but horrific for the victim?

I really don't know. I'm surprised at him. I guess it is a "boys will be boys" mentality.

 

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You couldn't sound like more of an idiot on this one. There are suicides every year from kids getting bullied at school - and that doesn't mean they're getting beat up. For some, it's verbal harassment, or getting pushed into lockers, or humiliated in some way.

Your perception of what it must be like for a kid to get ganged up on, held down & have his hair cut off is actually kind of chilling.

your constant attempts to paint the environment from 50 years ago with todays colors is quite amusing. You again want to scream with faux outrage over something that happened 50 years ago because you are desperate to divert attention from your master.

You all are the ones that sound like idiots on this. This kid didn't kill himself, he instead led a good life. You all wish to use his story because he is dead and can't tell you that you are full of shit. You want to make him sound weak and sad because that fits your narrative. You are using a dead man's experience from 50 years ago to suit your political agenda. It is beyond pathetic.

 

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It kind of scares me when I read what righties consider harmless. Even sane ones, or ones I consider to be sane. Weird.

It scares me how much lefties want to cry over little things. How you attempt to make mountains out of molehills. You want to coddle everyone, give them all a participation trophy and teach them that no matter what, all is well. The mentality is highly destructive.

 

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your constant attempts to paint the environment from 50 years ago with todays colors is quite amusing. You again want to scream with faux outrage over something that happened 50 years ago because you are desperate to divert attention from your master.

You all are the ones that sound like idiots on this. This kid didn't kill himself, he instead led a good life. You all wish to use his story because he is dead and can't tell you that you are full of shit. You want to make him sound weak and sad because that fits your narrative. You are using a dead man's experience from 50 years ago to suit your political agenda. It is beyond pathetic.

Ah the old Presentism complaint. R's love this one.

Yeah, I am one of those who feels the founders can be judged through the lense of contemporary morality on slavery because, oh guess what? Yeah, abolitionist thinking was quite common then too. And I believe some bastard who bullied kids he perceived as weaker than him 50 lousy years ago can be judged through so-called contemporary mores, because guess what? The majority of folks weren't thoughtless savages during the 1950's like you'd have us believe.

 

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If we ever have a JPP meet up, I would have to be assured that lots of libs would be there.

you crack me up... remember goofball, I know who you are... if I was some crackpot you had to worry about... do you think I would do something at a group event or would I maybe just do something.... tomorrow.

 

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It scares me how much lefties want to cry over little things. How you attempt to make mountains out of molehills. You want to coddle everyone, give them all a participation trophy and teach them that no matter what, all is well. The mentality is highly destructive.

So not participating in holding screaming kids down and cutting their hair off with a deadly weapon is "coddling" people?

I'd call that plain mental.

 

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I really don't know. I'm surprised at him. I guess it is a "boys will be boys" mentality.

I think it's an inability to empathize, personally. I mean, to call this "just a hair cut" you have to be completely devoid of the ability to put yourself in the shoes of the victim and completely fail to see the incident from the victim's perspective.

 

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I really don't know. I'm surprised at him. I guess it is a "boys will be boys" mentality.

yes, it is. Just as girls formed their cliques and some were um... not so nice to the less attractive/athletic girls blah blah blah. The stupidity of making this into a 'vicious' attack as some over the top left wing nuts continue to do all for the sake of attacking a political opponent is beyond pathetic.

 

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What's wrong with the "that's a fucked up thing to do but who cares it was high school" defense? I mean, there's no need to downplay it as a "prank" and just a hair cut to defend Rmoney on this one.

 

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I think it's an inability to empathize, personally. I mean, to call this "just a hair cut" you have to be completely devoid of the ability to put yourself in the shoes of the victim and completely fail to see the incident from the victim's perspective.

I agree, but that's why it's so surprising from SF. I don't believe that of him.

 

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your constant attempts to paint the environment from 50 years ago with todays colors is quite amusing. You again want to scream with faux outrage over something that happened 50 years ago because you are desperate to divert attention from your master.

You all are the ones that sound like idiots on this. This kid didn't kill himself, he instead led a good life. You all wish to use his story because he is dead and can't tell you that you are full of shit. You want to make him sound weak and sad because that fits your narrative. You are using a dead man's experience from 50 years ago to suit your political agenda. It is beyond pathetic.

So, it was less traumatizing to feel helpless & ganged up on 50 years ago? Good to know.

It's pretty craven of you to turn this into an "exploiting the victim" thing. Nasty, thoughtless acts are nasty, thoughtless acts - it doesn't matter what the era is, or what the strength or weakness of the victim is. These are strawman attempts by you to try to continue to minimize what happened.

And again - if you don't think what happened could potentially be traumatizing, you need traumatization lessons.

 

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So not participating in holding screaming kids down and cutting their hair off with a deadly weapon is "coddling" people?

I'd call that plain mental.

yeah, the part you are missing is that the one incident the former Obama campaign worker chose was that which involved a dead guy... a guy who couldn't tell us if the former Obama man was lying or not. Which takes us back to the completely unreliable hit pieces lies.

The fact that you continue trying to dramatize the event by calling the scissors a 'deadly weapon' shows exactly why you continue with this story. You want to use an event from 50 years ago to demonize a Republican. That is all you care about. You could care less what actually happened. All you care about is dramatizing it to try and persuade voters that Romney be evilzzz. Tell us, if Romney was so bad, why not tell us of an incident that involved someone who was still alive if you are the Obama man coming forward with this 'story'? Why not come forward when Romney was running for Governor... when the 'victim' was still alive to tell his tale?

Yeah, you don't care about any of that. You just want to paint the picture as a 'vicious assault' on a 'screaming kid' with a 'deadly weapon'.

 

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I think

You should have stopped right there. We all know you do not.

 

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What's wrong with the "that's a fucked up thing to do but who cares it was high school" defense? I mean, there's no need to downplay it as a "prank" and just a hair cut to defend Rmoney on this one.

what the fuck are you rambling about? I stated it was bullying (though the bullies might have thought it was simply a prank). It is not downplaying you dolt... it is perspective. Something which you clearly are being spoon fed.

 

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I agree, but that's why it's so surprising from SF. I don't believe that of him.

which is bullshit. I can put myself in that kids shoes. What you cannot seem to comprehend is that many people would not see that as a traumatizing event. You wish to make it so, so you pretend that it must be so. That is where you are failing. You are not empathizing with the kid, you are projecting your emotions onto him. There is a huge difference.

 

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which is bullshit. I can put myself in that kids shoes. What you cannot seem to comprehend is that many people would not see that as a traumatizing event. You wish to make it so, so you pretend that it must be so. That is where you are failing. You are not empathizing with the kid, you are projecting your emotions onto him. There is a huge difference.

I don't think I'm the one projecting here. Something is definitely going on here, but not that.

 

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what the fuck are you rambling about? I stated it was bullying (though the bullies might have thought it was simply a prank). It is not downplaying you dolt... it is perspective. Something which you clearly are being spoon fed.

So, it's not downplaying to say it was just a prank and a hair cut and that hair grows back? Who do you think is going to buy that?

 

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So, it was less traumatizing to feel helpless & ganged up on 50 years ago? Good to know.

As I stated to Darla, you are projecting the emotions you want him to have onto him. You have no idea. You just want to project the worst in some pathetic attempt to use an event from 50 years ago to promote your master.

It's pretty craven of you to turn this into an "exploiting the victim" thing. Nasty, thoughtless acts are nasty, thoughtless acts - it doesn't matter what the era is, or what the strength or weakness of the victim is. These are strawman attempts by you to try to continue to minimize what happened.

You are trying to exploit the victim. Or did you fail to see the comments from his sisters? The one that stated they thought the victim would be pissed that you and those like you were using this for political reasons. Did you miss that? Because they were quite clear on it. But let me guess, you think the Obama campaign worker knew the guy better than his sisters did... right? It is not a straw man... it is a fact. You are using this incident for political purposes. You are projecting the emotions YOU want him to have onto him, when he isn't here to speak. His family stated they were unhappy with those who would wish to use him for political reasons, yet you and your ilk continue to do so... and you have the nerve to call me craven.

And again - if you don't think what happened could potentially be traumatizing, you need traumatization lessons.

I don't doubt that many today would feel that way. Saying something could potentially be traumatizing is easy to do. What you are saying is that it WAS traumatizing. Anything 'could' be traumatizing. We all react to different circumstances in different ways. Obviously you would have crawled up into a fetal position and then killed yourself if someone had cut your hair. We get that. You have displayed for us exactly how you would have responded. Your problem again is that you are trying to project your response and reaction to the kid that got his hair cut. That is where you fail. That is where your desperation has led you. Down a pathetic path of taking a dead guys experience from 50 years ago and trying to use him for your political masters gain.

 

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I don't think I'm the one projecting here. Something is definitely going on here, but not that.

Yet you are. You all are. You say he was 'terrified'... yet the only person who was there that has made that claim is the person that held him down. You say he was 'viciously' attacked, yet you were not there, you don't know. You run around screaming 'he was attacked with a deadly weapon'... please tell me how that is not projecting? You are trying to sensationalize the event for political gain. Period.

 

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Wow