Hawaii again declares Obama birth certificate real

"Meh. I don't see any irrevocable damage done to the party. I do see an incredible amount of hypocrisy from people who wanted to see every detail of Bush's life leading up to his election because they wanted other people to believe he was AWOL in the military who now defend the same action from another."

Go ahead.

Since it "fascinated" you so much, please find all of my posts on the AWOL issue, or supporting Rather.
 
Yurt said:
so obama would have quelled nothing by releasing a copy of the original? why would people call HI after that? if you read most of the threads about this it stems from his refusal to release a copy of the original and has been further inflamed by ignorant lefties (not all) who claim he has released a copy of the original.....

people will say what they want, but obama had the power to release the original and stem this, he did not.....thus he largely gets the blame
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And if he did release it the doubters would have just moved the goalposts and demanded some new evidence. I'm pretty sure liberals realize this will never be concluded to the doubters' satisfaction.
 
Onceler said:
"Meh. I don't see any irrevocable damage done to the party. I do see an incredible amount of hypocrisy from people who wanted to see every detail of Bush's life leading up to his election because they wanted other people to believe he was AWOL in the military who now defend the same action from another."

Go ahead.

Since it "fascinated" you so much, please find all of my posts on the AWOL issue, or supporting Rather.
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Yeah, because you are the entire left, all of it is encompassed by you who are Onceler from whom all left things flow.
 
Onceler said:
I consider it a strategic move on his part.

It's a good distraction. Let the right squabble & obsess over this issue, while the admin moves forward with real issues...
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um.....yeah....thats why they keep getting asked about it during press conferences and how nice of obama to allow HI to get deluged with phone calls/requests over this when he could have taken 10 minutes and 10 dollars....

if this obama planned this, he is the biggest hypocrite and moron ever elected to office...such a simple thing to release a copy of the original, but oh no....obama wants to cause shit for HI and others....real nice onceler
 
Darla said:
Hey Sybil! What up girl. Get any emails from tutu lately? Hey, do you know if diamond got any more emails from abba, there also that would be interesting.

I like the redneck alaskan impression. I guess you got it from Palin. Can't say I blame ya! You betcha! ;)
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I see they've allowed you computer time in the mental instituation you live at..
go bug out on one of your other nutjob friends...K
 
Damocles said:
Then you ignore hypocrisy. The "most transparent administration in history" further inflamed the problem by not being very transparent.

It's like pretending that egging two people on who are fighting isn't a participatory function.

More people were convinced simply by the way he acted as if he had something to hide.
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Rubbish, he didn't hide anything. He furnished proof of birth months ago. It's the doubters who keep raising the bar on what kind of evidence they're looking for.
 
christiefan915 said:
And if he did release it the doubters would have just moved the goalposts and demanded some new evidence. I'm pretty sure liberals realize this will never be concluded to the doubters' satisfaction.
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there very well might be those people, but if you read the news and posts for the vast majority it comes down solely to the original...and why he won't simply release it....further, it comes down to morons like factcheck.org that claim he released a copy of the original....which now we can see even more clearly is false as HI had to say the original is on file and as they said....only obama or something with a tangible interest can release it

stupid...if obama is this petty, he is a lousy leader...
 
Damocles said:
Yeah, because you are the entire left, all of it is encompassed by you who are Onceler from whom all left things flow.
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Well, who else then? There are only a handful of posters on the left who have been posting regarding the birthing issue. Which do you remember specifically who went to the mat on Bush's AWOL issue, and have demonstrated enough hypocrisy to "fascinate" you?
 
Darla said:
He did release the original during the campaign. There was a picture of it on his website, if I recall correctly. Of course I wasn't following this nonsense.

But it doesn't matter. I rather hope he didn't, because contrary to what you yahoos are ass slapping each other over, this has really hurt your party. And oh, your party can't afford to be hurt.

You've got R congresspeople running, literally running, from cameras when newspeople ask them if they think that the President is a citizen.

It's been great. It's totally killed you guys and the only people who don't see it are the freaks like meme/tutu let me hand off that password now that iv'e been found out, abba/diamond/midamber, etc etc etc.

Yeah, you've got the Sybils and the toothless rednecks with you on this.

I love it. It's almost as good as Sarah how bout in the honor of also our soldiers you stop talking bad about me also Palin.

Almost...
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he never released an original....sheeesh, its people like you spreading lies about this that inflame even more....HI said that only obama or someone with tangible interest could get a copy.....

only an idiot would still believe obama released a copy of the original when HI is saying they can't release a copy....instead of saying....obama already released a copy

get your facts straight
 
It was actually a Hillary Clinton supporter who first asked about the BC, but now the left and their lame dog media is trying to pass it off as being the Conservatives..this is not going away..it has been forced into the nationial spot light and no matter the spin they want to throw on it...people want his Orginial BC released...

too bad for Hugo..
 
Yurt said:
there very well might be those people, but if you read the news and posts for the vast majority it comes down solely to the original...and why he won't simply release it....further, it comes down to morons like factcheck.org that claim he released a copy of the original....which now we can see even more clearly is false as HI had to say the original is on file and as they said....only obama or something with a tangible interest can release it

stupid...if obama is this petty, he is a lousy leader...
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And the other certificate shows his parents' ages, time of birth, his birth weight and length, parents' marital status, and name of doctor.

This info is going to settle the argument how?
 
Onceler said:
Well, who else then? There are only a handful of posters on the left who have been posting regarding the birthing issue. Which do you remember specifically who went to the mat on Bush's AWOL issue, and have demonstrated enough hypocrisy to "fascinate" you?
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Please. You know we can't search up threads on that election cycle because it happened two boards ago.

I remember reading thread after thread on it, and not participating (except in the Rather See B.S. News threads) often because I found it not very important (except when newsies just make stuff up).

Are you saying it was never discussed? Or constantly mentioned in other places? Things like 'AWOL Bush' never made it onto any threads? That some were not obsessed with the supposed difference of the "war hero" Kerry and Bush? It was a constant during that election. (Most of it was on another site that no longer has any posts to search considering this one opened in 2006).

If you are really trying to suggest that obsession didn't exist (as people were sometimes still asking why Bush didn't release all his military records at the end of his second term) then IMO you have a serious lack of the ability to look at your party with any objectivity.
 
christiefan915 said:
And the other certificate shows his parents' ages, time of birth, his birth weight and length, parents' marital status, and name of doctor.

This info is going to settle the argument how?
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See meme's post above yours to see how much it is settled.

We'll keep fighting!

This is the best thing since the TEA parties...
 
there is evidently something on it he doesn't want people to see..

until we see it, then we won't know what that is, will we..
 
Damocles said:
Please. You know we can't search up threads on that election cycle because it happened two boards ago.

I remember reading thread after thread on it, and not participating (except in the Rather See B.S. News threads) often because I found it not very important (except when newsies just make stuff up).

Are you saying it was never discussed? Or constantly mentioned in other places? Things like 'AWOL Bush' never made it onto any threads? That some were not obsessed with the supposed difference of the "war hero" Kerry and Bush? It was a constant during that election. (Most of it was on another site that no longer has any posts to search considering this one opened in 2006).

If you are really trying to suggest that obsession didn't exist (as people were sometimes still asking why Bush didn't release all his military records at the end of his second term) then IMO you have a serious lack of the ability to look at your party with any objectivity.
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You know you could have just said Desh posted it. It's a pretty safe bet.
 
Onceler said:
See meme's post above yours to see how much it is settled.

We'll keep fighting!

This is the best thing since the TEA parties...
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you betcha..we aren't going to take this thug administration lying down...we are just getting started..hold on for the ride...
 
charver said:
You know you could have just said Desh posted it. It's a pretty safe bet.
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Yeah, but I don't want to accuse without evidence. There is no evidence anymore so even Desh gets a benefit of doubt. I certainly do remember it being discussed, almost daily. These BC threads are few in comparison.
 
meme said:
you betcha..we aren't going to take this thug administration lying down...we are just getting started..hold on for the ride...
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Good luck with that. We couldn't get the War Criminal-in-Chief impeached, so it'll be interesting to see you all try the same with Obama, with no grounds.
 
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