Hawaii Gov. Josh Green: States Must Prepare Now for Potentially ‘Devastating’ Infectious Diseases, Health Funding Cuts

285 cases in 2024 are not a "pandemic" by any measure... while I think it is concerning that the numbers are on the rise, I do not believe that the numbers are what you want me to believe they are. If you work in healthcare as you say you do, and I have no reason to disbelieve your claim, then you know you are exaggerating saying that this is something that is super concerning to folks here in these United States.
 
Damocles said:
285 cases in 2024 are not a "pandemic" by any measure... while I think it is concerning that the numbers are on the rise, I do not believe that the numbers are what you want me to believe they are. If you work in healthcare as you say you do, and I have no reason to disbelieve your claim, then you know you are exaggerating saying that this is something that is super concerning to folks here in these United States.
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Nobody said pandemic. We are trying to prevent unnecessary deaths. Unless you think a few dead republican kids is fine so they can continue to promote misinformation.
 
Magats_Love_NHB said:
Nobody said pandemic. We are trying to prevent unnecessary deaths. Unless you think a few dead republican kids is fine so they can continue to promote misinformation.
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I think we'll be okay so long as the numbers don't continue to rise too heavily. There has to be a pendulum on these things. If more kids get sick more folks will act, numbers of vaccinations will again rise.

The numbers do not support something we need to panic over. Maintain a watch, see if those "crazy religious folks" keep asserting their rights like dumbos so heavily that under 300 kids in the US get Measles each year...
 
Damocles said:
I think we'll be okay so long as the numbers don't continue to rise too heavily. There has to be a pendulum on these things. If more kids get sick more folks will act, numbers of vaccinations will again rise.

The numbers do not support something we need to panic over. Maintain a watch, see if those "crazy religious folks" keep asserting their rights like dumbos so heavily that under 300 kids in the US get Measles each year...
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I'll listen to the immunologists on this topic.
 
Magats_Love_NHB said:
I'll listen to the immunologists on this topic.
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So will I. Specifically to their number of cases as well as whether it's gone towards the deep end. In 2021-2022 (same years I spoke of earlier) went "up" to 7% the 2% "rise" wasn't for folks protesting vaccinations, it was due to access to care that wasn't Covid related.
 
Damocles said:
How many are there that remain unvaccinated from the Measles?
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No one knows for sure, but the best guess is around 8% of children. A 95% vaccination rate is probably what we need for herd immunity, and we only have 92%. We are looking at a disaster.

El Salvador has a 99% vaccination rate.

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Damocles said:
And I ask again, exactly how many people in the US keep their kids from getting the Measles vaccine?
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We do not collect exact numbers, because we assumed America was doing a good job. The surveyed number is 8%, but some people lie on the survey. I would bet the number would be higher.
 
Damocles said:
I know that many of the South American nations do not require it as they think of it as a "childhood disease" that "everybody gets"...
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Then you know wrong. They absolutely require measles vaccination, and have no exceptions. That is why they are at 99% vaccination rates.
 
Magats_Love_NHB said:
At a U.S. News health forum, the physician-governor said that travel restrictions could be needed if measles or bird flu outbreaks ‘explode.’


WASHINGTON _ If infectious disease outbreaks such as measles or bird flu explode into larger-scale emergencies, Hawaii could begin screening visitors to the state, as it did during the COVID pandemic, Hawaii Gov. Josh Green said in a wide-ranging interview on the margin of the National Governors Association meeting.
“From a practical standpoint, the best we could do would be to assess outbreaks analytically and then, yes, do screenings or make sure that people were healthy” to travel, Green said.
Green, the only governor who is also a physician, said if things take a turn for the worse with bird flu, for instance, “we are already preparing what is right now a very private strategy to deal with a large outbreak should it happen nationally,” he said. “Can we focus on everything and everyone’s vaccination status? I don’t think that’s possible. So we are preparing extra support.”
During the heights of the COVID-19 pandemic, Hawaii “closed completely,” Green said, to manage the spread of disease because of concerns about shortages of health care workers and medical supplies on its islands. “We learned a lot of lessons from COVID about how to be prepared in advance,” Green said Thursday at a health care event hosted by U.S. News & World Report.
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Measles Spreads Amid Health Worker Purge

According to the Texas Department of State Health Services, 90 cases of measles have been identified in Texas since late January. Several cases have also been reported in New Mexico.
Green helped battle a measles outbreak on the island of Samoa in 2019 when he was serving as lieutenant governor. “Many Samoans were afraid to vaccinate their children,” Green wrote in a January op-ed for The New York Times, after activists from other countries, including newly confirmed Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy Jr., “claimed vaccines were dangerous.” Green urged Congress in public testimony not to confirm Kennedy to lead HHS. Earlier this week, Kennedy pledged to examine the childhood vaccine schedule that prevents measles, polio and other dangerous diseases.
“I’m concerned that there’s already outbreaks of measles that are going to explode across our country,” Green said. “I saw the impact of misinformation on vaccinations, and if that amps up, we are going to face a lot of extra illness, and we will lose children.”
Green, the co-chair of the National Governors Association public health and disaster response task force, is joining other governors in Washington for the annual winter gathering of the NGA this week, which includes a meeting with President Donald Trump on Friday and a dinner at the White House on Saturday.
During COVID, Green said Hawaii used real-time data and analytics to deploy additional masks, clinicians and hospital beds, for instance, across different parts of the state, which is home to about 1.4 million people.
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The Cult will simply declare any infectious disease FAKE and move forward.
 
Damocles said:
The numbers do not support something we need to panic over. Maintain a watch, see if those "crazy religious folks" keep asserting their rights like dumbos so heavily that under 300 kids in the US get Measles each year...
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What we saw from Kennedy's last measles failure, Samoa, was that a Measles outbreak after falling vaccination rates is sudden. In theory, Kennedy's next measles failure will come on us suddenly, and will kill thousands of children.
 
Damocles said:
So will I. Specifically to their number of cases as well as whether it's gone towards the deep end. In 2021-2022 (same years I spoke of earlier) went "up" to 7% the 2% "rise" wasn't for folks protesting vaccinations, it was due to access to care that wasn't Covid related.
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Dropping below 95% is a big deal. We are at most 92%, probably much lower, and dropping quickly.
 
Walt said:
Dropping below 95% is a big deal. We are at most 92%, probably much lower, and dropping quickly.
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I think it is likely it went back up to 95 as the reason it dropped 2% was the fact that folks had a hard time visiting doctors if their issue wasn't Covid...
 
Magats_Love_NHB said:
At a U.S. News health forum, the physician-governor said that travel restrictions could be needed if measles or bird flu outbreaks ‘explode.’


WASHINGTON _ If infectious disease outbreaks such as measles or bird flu explode into larger-scale emergencies, Hawaii could begin screening visitors to the state, as it did during the COVID pandemic, Hawaii Gov. Josh Green said in a wide-ranging interview on the margin of the National Governors Association meeting.
“From a practical standpoint, the best we could do would be to assess outbreaks analytically and then, yes, do screenings or make sure that people were healthy” to travel, Green said.
Green, the only governor who is also a physician, said if things take a turn for the worse with bird flu, for instance, “we are already preparing what is right now a very private strategy to deal with a large outbreak should it happen nationally,” he said. “Can we focus on everything and everyone’s vaccination status? I don’t think that’s possible. So we are preparing extra support.”
During the heights of the COVID-19 pandemic, Hawaii “closed completely,” Green said, to manage the spread of disease because of concerns about shortages of health care workers and medical supplies on its islands. “We learned a lot of lessons from COVID about how to be prepared in advance,” Green said Thursday at a health care event hosted by U.S. News & World Report.
READ:

Measles Spreads Amid Health Worker Purge

According to the Texas Department of State Health Services, 90 cases of measles have been identified in Texas since late January. Several cases have also been reported in New Mexico.
Green helped battle a measles outbreak on the island of Samoa in 2019 when he was serving as lieutenant governor. “Many Samoans were afraid to vaccinate their children,” Green wrote in a January op-ed for The New York Times, after activists from other countries, including newly confirmed Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy Jr., “claimed vaccines were dangerous.” Green urged Congress in public testimony not to confirm Kennedy to lead HHS. Earlier this week, Kennedy pledged to examine the childhood vaccine schedule that prevents measles, polio and other dangerous diseases.
“I’m concerned that there’s already outbreaks of measles that are going to explode across our country,” Green said. “I saw the impact of misinformation on vaccinations, and if that amps up, we are going to face a lot of extra illness, and we will lose children.”
Green, the co-chair of the National Governors Association public health and disaster response task force, is joining other governors in Washington for the annual winter gathering of the NGA this week, which includes a meeting with President Donald Trump on Friday and a dinner at the White House on Saturday.
During COVID, Green said Hawaii used real-time data and analytics to deploy additional masks, clinicians and hospital beds, for instance, across different parts of the state, which is home to about 1.4 million people.
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Not to worry, RFK Jr is on it
 
Damocles said:
I think it is likely it went back up to 95 as the reason it dropped 2% was the fact that folks had a hard time visiting doctors if their issue wasn't Covid...
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The last figures I saw was 92%, a drop of one more percent. Even if it has risen, I doubt it is up to 95%. We are in trouble.

Maybe we will get away with it all for another year.... Maybe two years.... Maybe three years... But every year we get away with it, people will think it is not a problem, and the rates will drop. And then when we don't get away with it, it will be a nightmare.

I feel sorry for Mexico and Canada. They have worked hard to keep their rates up. We are pumping misinformation dropping their rates over our border, and then when we do get an outbreak, we will pump disease over our border.

But Kennedy and trump just don't care.
 
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