Here's what Bush should do about Iraq....

the mission of UNTSO Palestine has absolutely nothing to do with a palestinian state. It has to do with monitoring the protection of the state of Israel. And the territory of the state of Israel has been expanded by wartime acquisitions.... and the legal residents of those territories have some rights to self determination, don't you think?
 
Say what...Commander?

maineman said:
the mission of UNTSO Palestine has absolutely nothing to do with a palestinian state. It has to do with monitoring the protection of the state of Israel. And the territory of the state of Israel has been expanded by wartime acquisitions.... and the legal residents of those territories have some rights to self determination, don't you think?
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Excuse me but then what is the mission protecting if not the State of Israel...and the removal of the Bastardized State called Palistine? This has everything to do with the Palistine State...! I gave you my opinion as to how to solve the issue...Talk to Egypt,Jordan and Lebanon let them resolve the issue of them throwing out the so called Palestinians...Let Israel reclaim their territories that the Palestinians are occupying...send the Palestinians back to Egypt,Jordan and Lebanon give them jobs and a Identity...simple really!
 
Battleborne said:
Bison Breath....ya have no idea what is comming down the pike...enjoy the cheerleading though!:rolleyes:
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I think you need to get back to the Idaho compound and hunker down. The End is Nigh! Canadian socialism is spreading south and the ZOG is set to hand over our God-given sovereignty to the U.N. as soon as Congress turns coat!
 
Idaho....!

OrnotBitwise said:
I think you need to get back to the Idaho compound and hunker down. The End is Nigh! Canadian socialism is spreading south and the ZOG is set to hand over our God-given sovereignty to the U.N. as soon as Congress turns coat!
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Sorry not a potato farmer...and I do just fine in my ultra conservative little town...thank you very much!
 
Battleborne said:
Excuse me but then what is the mission protecting if not the State of Israel...and the removal of the Bastardized State called Palistine? This has everything to do with the Palistine State...! I gave you my opinion as to how to solve the issue...Talk to Egypt,Jordan and Lebanon let them resolve the issue of them throwing out the so called Palestinians...Let Israel reclaim their territories that the Palestinians are occupying...send the Palestinians back to Egypt,Jordan and Lebanon give them jobs and a Identity...simple really!
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the mission of UNTSO Palestine has nothing to do with the possible establishment of an independent Palestinian state. That is just a fact. It is also a fact that the west bank of the jordan river, the gaza strip, east jerusalem and the golan heights were all acquired by Israel after the creation of the state of Israel during conflicts. All of those areas have inhabitants who were not Israeli citizens nor living in Israeli territory until Israel captured the ground on which they lived. Those people in those areas have rights that have been withheld from them. That is also a fact.
 
Okay....

maineman said:
the mission of UNTSO Palestine has nothing to do with the possible establishment of an independent Palestinian state. That is just a fact. It is also a fact that the west bank of the jordan river, the gaza strip, east jerusalem and the golan heights were all acquired by Israel after the creation of the state of Israel during conflicts. All of those areas have inhabitants who were not Israeli citizens nor living in Israeli territory until Israel captured the ground on which they lived. Those people in those areas have rights that have been withheld from them. That is also a fact.
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Since you obviously missed the drift...Think 'PLO'...not the indiginous people sharing land with the Israelites!
 
All of those areas have inhabitants who were not Israeli citizens nor living in Israeli territory until Israel captured the ground on which they lived.

And why was this land captured? Was it because the mean, aggressive, greedy Jews, just couldn't be content with what they had? I don't think so. Who was to blame for Israel capturing this land, Maine?
 
Let Israel reclaim their territories that the Palestinians are occupying...

You have the words Israel and Palestine the wrong way round.

Israel is an artificial state, imposed on the tribal people of Palestine by the British because of Israeli terrorism against British troops and Arab locals.

Israel has then gone on a Hitleresque 'breathing space' occupation program, whilst being cheered on by moronic hypocrits in the west such as yourself. They have ghettoised the Palestinian people (echoes of the Jewish ghettoes in Eastern Europe in the 1930's.) and brutalised them.

Today they use terrorism (targeting civilians for political gain) using the euthemism of calling their terrorism 'defence'.
 
And why was this land captured? Was it because the mean, aggressive, greedy Jews, just couldn't be content with what they had? I don't think so. Who was to blame for Israel capturing this land, Maine?

Israel. If a nation conquers land from another, do they get to keep it?

Did the Germans keep Poland?

The truth is, the State of Israel was imposed on the Arab people by the British in the face of Israeli terrorism and a world community impinged by guilt over WWII.

Since then, the Israelis have, with the exception of extermination camps, pretty much acted as the Germans did to them.
 
my ultra conservative little town

A whole town full of self-important, self-righteous, morality imposing, anal fat heads....

Sounds like the Christian hell to me....
 
Battleborne said:
Since you obviously missed the drift...Think 'PLO'...not the indiginous people sharing land with the Israelites!
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and YOU obviously missed the drift.... what does the PLO have to do with the mission of UNTSO Palestine? And...fyi.... they are not called "Israelites" anymore...that is strictlya biblical term. Israelis is correct. And I find it quaint of you to refer to the people native to the Golan, Gaza, West Bank, and East Jerusalem as "sharing land" with Israelis. They are residents of captured territory and they do not have citizenship rights.... and you seem to feel that, somehow, that is not the problem of the occupying nation (Israel) but the problem of the nation from whom the land was seized? How the fuck does THAT work?


did you pick up all your knowledge of the area from a fucking comic book?
 
Dixie said:
All of those areas have inhabitants who were not Israeli citizens nor living in Israeli territory until Israel captured the ground on which they lived.

And why was this land captured? Was it because the mean, aggressive, greedy Jews, just couldn't be content with what they had? I don't think so. Who was to blame for Israel capturing this land, Maine?
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who is to BLAME for Israel's military successes? What a ridiculous question. the fact is: Israel occupies territory that it won in battle. The residents of those lands - the Golan Heights, The West Bank, The Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem - have not been given any rights as citizens. The question is: who is to blame for THAT? And an even better question is: what is to be DONE about it?
 
Really....

AnyOldIron said:
Let Israel reclaim their territories that the Palestinians are occupying...

You have the words Israel and Palestine the wrong way round.

Israel is an artificial state, imposed on the tribal people of Palestine by the British because of Israeli terrorism against British troops and Arab locals.

Israel has then gone on a Hitleresque 'breathing space' occupation program, whilst being cheered on by moronic hypocrits in the west such as yourself. They have ghettoised the Palestinian people (echoes of the Jewish ghettoes in Eastern Europe in the 1930's.) and brutalised them.

Today they use terrorism (targeting civilians for political gain) using the euthemism of calling their terrorism 'defence'.
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Humm...If I remember correctly not too long ago Israel removed it's people from a little track of land that they had cultivated and was clean and producing income...when the Palestinians took over the land and buildings they gutted them and made the area a slum...I think you have it backwards!
 
apples and oranges..... you really need to find some other topic battleweary..... the middle east is NOT your forte!
 
Struck a nerve...

maineman said:
and YOU obviously missed the drift.... what does the PLO have to do with the mission of UNTSO Palestine? And...fyi.... they are not called "Israelites" anymore...that is strictlya biblical term. Israelis is correct. And I find it quaint of you to refer to the people native to the Golan, Gaza, West Bank, and East Jerusalem as "sharing land" with Israelis. They are residents of captured territory and they do not have citizenship rights.... and you seem to feel that, somehow, that is not the problem of the occupying nation (Israel) but the problem of the nation from whom the land was seized? How the fuck does THAT work?


eh' you are losing it Commander...your language skills have reverted to the Liberal mantra...lol:rolleyes:

did you pick up all your knowledge of the area from a fucking comic book?
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[ vainman strikes again]
 
Really...

maineman said:
apples and oranges..... you really need to find some other topic battleweary..... the middle east is NOT your forte!
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Commander! You my friend were outta service in the area while I was working counter terrorism...up until my early retirement 1986....baa hum bug...vainman!
 
I would not brag about a resume that has left you so short of real understanding about the region - you may have been involved in counter terrorism stateside, but your knowledge of the middle east is fragmented at best and grossly inadequate and inaccurate at worst....from your ridiculous AQ - Ottoman analogies to your suggestions that UN military observers have anything in common with US Army forward observers.... you are the poster child for the aphorism: A little knowledge is dangerous.
 
eh' you are losing it Commander...your language skills have reverted to the Liberal mantra...lol

the guy who uses the term "Israelites" in a modern day context is lecturing ME about language skills....

And beyond that, address my the points I addressed. Tell me how the fact that the residents of the Golan, Gaza and the West Bank do not have civil citizenship rights is somehow the fault of Syria, Egypt or Jordan
 
Well Commander...

maineman said:
eh' you are losing it Commander...your language skills have reverted to the Liberal mantra...lol

the guy who uses the term "Israelites" in a modern day context is lecturing ME about language skills....

And beyond that, address my the points I addressed. Tell me how the fact that the residents of the Golan, Gaza and the West Bank do not have civil citizenship rights is somehow the fault of Syria, Egypt or Jordan
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Personally I really do not care how you feel about my Intelligence analogy...My boss at the time incorporated it into the overall plan to fight terrorism...and my friend he was way above your grade and experience...as for the observer comment..I addressed another poster who just said 'observer' and for the Egypt,Jordan,Lebanon comment I was referring to these countries who threw out their Palestinian brothers..."PLO" who migrated to the lands where Israel and the other indiginoius people were working out their differences...I suggested that these countries take back their brothers in arms and give them jobs and a identity this would solve the issue of poverty and a home state for them...again really simple like you vainman!
 
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