Hillary's slide in the polls continues

Thing1 said:
Are you guys actually suggesting that racism & xenophobia are not significant aspects of both Brexit & Trump's ascendancy?
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As far as Brexit is concerned that is definitely true. That you don't know that doesn't surprise me in the least. Being concerned about immigration does not make you in the least bit racist, only fools think otherwise.

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Thing1 said:
Trump's business record is disgusting. Between him & Madoff, it's pretty obvious that just making billions isn't worthy of praise or admiration.

He's left such a trail of ruined businesses & lives. That people think he's some sort of straight-talking "man of the people" speaks only to his ability to fool a lot of folks. Trump is about Trump. He's always been about Trump, and will always be about Trump.
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I agree. Trump is an egomaniac. He will not be satisfied until everyone recognizes him as the best president ever. He wont let his term end as another bush or obama.

If you asked someone of trumps character why there was an extra space in mt rushmore they would say it is so they could put their face there.

Meanwhile clinton is all about getting the presidency as her due. Her birthright with no other necessary qualification rather than ahving the clinton name. I dont think wht she does in it is important to her as long as she continues to build up her dynasty power.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
The problem with that is Trump is such a known quantity---he's been famous for decades. People already know about him. Trump's past may be red meat for the faithful but Hillary's already got them in the bag.

I don't see it budging the needle with undecideds.
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People know 'about' him, but they won't know him until he's exposed in the debates. In the Republican debates, he was able to claim 'I've never declared personal bankruptcy'. His followers don't care enough to research that. If they did, they'd find that he didn't have to declare bankruptcy, because he structured the deal with the banks so that they 'forgave' almost $1 billion in personal debt.

He still defaulted on the junk bonds, leaving investors screwed.

His business/personal life are all that he has to tell us about his ability to run a country. Politicians rely on their personal life, as well as their job in office.


There's nothing in Trump's personal life that isn't a sham.

Now...his followers don't care about that. But the undecideds who haven't fact checked him yet will get the whole picture after the debates.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
But Trump hasn't been in public office.

He didn't preside over the Russian reset: he wasn't serving as Sec State when Iraq imploded and became an Islamist hell hole. Trump didn't invade Libya, vote for the Iraq war or sit on his thumbs when the Mullahs put down the Green uprising in Iran.

As Trump would say, that's a Yuge difference lol.

What's Hillary going to say to all of that?
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This is a perfect example of why Hillary will win.

In the same sentence, you criticize her for being pro nation building twice, and then criticize her for not supporting the invasion of Iran?
 
Althea said:
This is a perfect example of why Hillary will win.

In the same sentence, you criticize her for being pro nation building twice, and then criticize her for not supporting the invasion of Iran?
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There were other ways of supporting the over throw of the mullahs besides invasion.

We should have supported Mubarak in Egypt and he fell.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
There were other ways of supporting the over throw of the mullahs besides invasion.

We should have supported Mubarak in Egypt and he fell.
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Go ahead....we'll wait. We already had sanctions in place in Iran. Why should we support any leader who cannot keep his masses happy? You might be too young to remember the Shah of Iran.

Do you believe we can still get away with installing our own surrogates in every country?
 
Althea said:
Go ahead....we'll wait. We already had sanctions in place in Iran. Why should we support any leader who cannot keep his masses happy? You might be too young to remember the Shah of Iran.

Do you believe we can still get away with installing our own surrogates in every country?
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I remember the Shah and I remember what happened when he got over thrown. The Middle East is more stable with dictators.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archiv...-his-back-on-the-green-revolution-in-iran.php

Obama severed CIA ties with the Green Movement in 2009.
 
Milagro said:
As far as Brexit is concerned that is definitely true. That you don't know that doesn't surprise me in the least. Being concerned about immigration does not make you in the least bit racist, only fools think otherwise.

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I'm not saying that there aren't those who are just concerned about immigration.

But for you to suggest that a significant # of supporters aren't racist & xenophobic is hopelessly naive. What planet do you live on?
 
Thing1 said:
I'm not saying that there aren't those who are just concerned about immigration.

But for you to suggest that a significant # of supporters aren't racist & xenophobic is hopelessly naive. What planet do you live on?
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See, this is the sort of empty statement liberals are known for. Formally, it's known as a 'naked assertion'. In other words, all they need to do is, merely state, that it's 'hopelessly naive to think racism and xenophobia doesn't play a significant role'.

Prove it.
 
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