Hiv shut off trigger found

Desh said:
Im sure it will be very expensive to buy when they finnaly can market it.
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True. How unfair. Why charge AIDS victims who buy the medicine? The companies should recoup the $millions they have spent trying to find the cure, by growing money on trees instead.
 
It should be provided without cost to anyone who needs it, and the company should be paid back through the general fund. Patents are an idiotic way to pay back a company.
 
The findings show promise as an avenue for HIV therapy, according to researchers at the University of California (UC), SanDiego and Oak Ridge National Laboratory.


Yeah profits are more important than lives of the poor who can not afford to pay the price to live.
 
Desh said:
The findings show promise as an avenue for HIV therapy, according to researchers at the University of California (UC), SanDiego and Oak Ridge National Laboratory.


Yeah profits are more important than lives of the poor who can not afford to pay the price to live.
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People should risk millions of dollars and have all the people work for free to give something away (yes that is sarcasm but the point is there).

If something is expensive should they not produce the drug then?
 
cawacko said:
People should risk millions of dollars and have all the people work for free to give something away (yes that is sarcasm but the point is there).

If something is expensive should they not produce the drug then?
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No they should realize they were publically funded and allow people in need to buy it at a reduced price or fricking donate the rights to certain groups to produce it at cost.

Profit is not what this life is all about. They can still recoup thier costs, make a profit and get this to children who have no fucking way in hell of buying it..

Are you really going to argue the children should just die?
 
Desh said:
No they should realize they were publically funded and allow people in need to buy it at a reduced price or fricking donate the rights to certain groups to produce it at cost.

Profit is not what this life is all about. They can still recoup thier costs, make a profit and get this to children who have no fucking way in hell of buying it..

Are you really going to argue the children should just die?
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A. If this drug is never created kids are going to die.

B. It's not even a drug yet.

C. I don't know how funding or drugs work when they are created or discovered at a University. Anyone have any ideas? Do universities work with drug companies to create them? Universities obviously have money to do the research but do they have the resources to go through the drug creating process?
 
cawacko said:
People should risk millions of dollars and have all the people work for free to give something away (yes that is sarcasm but the point is there).

If something is expensive should they not produce the drug then?
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The research was done at publically funded, taxpayer supported institutions.

U.S. researchers have discovered the genetic circuit in HIV that controls whether the virus turns active or stays dormant, and have succeeded in forcing the virus toward dormancy.

The findings show promise as an avenue for HIV therapy, according to researchers at the University of California (UC), SanDiego and Oak Ridge National Laboratory.
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That's the beauty of "capitalism". Most basic, core scientific research is funded by taxpayers, and then that scientific knowledge is transfered - totally free of charge - to pharmecueticals who are good at figuring out how to make a consumer product out of it and market it.
 
I dunno, a lot of what pharmaceuticals do couldn't really be described as "paying for research", but "gouging".

The medical version of GHB, for instance, costs a thou a month for treatment, while you can buy it illegaly off the street for like 1% of that.
 
From what i read the other day, no one so far is ever free of the HIV virius once they get it. Even if they are apparently cured they still have the virius and can possibly pass it on.

with that said it is still good or especially good if it can at least be deactivated.
 
uscitizen said:
From what i read the other day, no one so far is ever free of the HIV virius once they get it. Even if they are apparently cured they still have the virius and can possibly pass it on.
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That's probably because no vaccine has ever been found, the virus doesn't ever die out in their system, and vaccines or letting the virus run its course are pretty much the only ways we know of to deal with virus's.
 
Cypress said:
The research was done at publically funded, taxpayer supported institutions.

That's the beauty of "capitalism". Most basic, core scientific research is funded by taxpayers, and then that scientific knowledge is transfered - totally free of charge - to pharmecueticals who are good at figuring out how to make a consumer product out of it and market it.
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Incorrect. Sponsored research recoups all costs from the pharma sponsor and then some. It's not free. The Uni typically receives some percent of gross sales of the medication as royalty. That money pays for scholarships, etc.
 
Troglodyte27 said:
Incorrect. Sponsored research recoups all costs from the pharma sponsor and then some. It's not free. The Uni typically receives some percent of gross sales of the medication as royalty. That money pays for scholarships, etc.
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Thank you. I can now remember articles from a while back where people at cal-berkeley were protesting the university's relationship with several pharma companys. This makes sense now.
 
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