HIV vaccine

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http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/24/hiv-vaccine-poised-to-save-more-lives/

HIV vaccine poised to save more lives


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HIV is a virus that is incredibly tough to nail down. It mutates constantly – not enough to lose its deadly aspects, but enough to shapeshift, as it were, preventing our immune systems from recognizing it. That makes a vaccine really difficult to create.
But now the New York Times is reporting that a new combination of experimental vaccines appears to be effective in lowering the risk of HIV infection! In a controlled study, the number of people in a group using the vaccine had 30% fewer HIV cases compared to a group who did not get vaccinated. Specifically, there were 51 HIV cases out of 8200 people vaccinated versus 74 out of 8200 not vaccinated. That’s very heartening! The vaccination course is actually composed of two different vaccines, neither of which on its own was effective, but together appear to boost the immune system enough (in some cases) to help fight off the initial virus infection.
A few things to note:
1) The vaccine course was not 100% effective, and does not drop the viral load of someone already infected. This is a prophylaxis, a preventative. It’s not a cure.
2) There is no HIV in the vaccine itself — it has pieces of the protein HIV coats itself with, to help the body recognize the virus — so people using it cannot get HIV from it.
3) The vaccine is not widely available; it’s still experimental. It was also tested on just strains found in Thailand, which may not translate well for other strains found elsewhere.
4) The vaccination was developed by the U.S. Army in cooperation with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. Expect the antivax cranks to go ballistic over that first part.
I think this is a big stride forward, but as always there’s a ways to go yet. Ask anyone in the medical profession what the most important advance in history has been in their field, and vaccines are very high on the list. Vaccines have saved hundreds of millions of lives… and it looks like scientists will continue to find ways to do so.
Science!
 
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/09/24/hiv-vaccine-poised-to-save-more-lives/

HIV vaccine poised to save more lives


. .


HIV is a virus that is incredibly tough to nail down. It mutates constantly – not enough to lose its deadly aspects, but enough to shapeshift, as it were, preventing our immune systems from recognizing it. That makes a vaccine really difficult to create.
But now the New York Times is reporting that a new combination of experimental vaccines appears to be effective in lowering the risk of HIV infection! In a controlled study, the number of people in a group using the vaccine had 30% fewer HIV cases compared to a group who did not get vaccinated. Specifically, there were 51 HIV cases out of 8200 people vaccinated versus 74 out of 8200 not vaccinated. That’s very heartening! The vaccination course is actually composed of two different vaccines, neither of which on its own was effective, but together appear to boost the immune system enough (in some cases) to help fight off the initial virus infection.
A few things to note:
1) The vaccine course was not 100% effective, and does not drop the viral load of someone already infected. This is a prophylaxis, a preventative. It’s not a cure.
2) There is no HIV in the vaccine itself — it has pieces of the protein HIV coats itself with, to help the body recognize the virus — so people using it cannot get HIV from it.
3) The vaccine is not widely available; it’s still experimental. It was also tested on just strains found in Thailand, which may not translate well for other strains found elsewhere.
4) The vaccination was developed by the U.S. Army in cooperation with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. Expect the antivax cranks to go ballistic over that first part.
I think this is a big stride forward, but as always there’s a ways to go yet. Ask anyone in the medical profession what the most important advance in history has been in their field, and vaccines are very high on the list. Vaccines have saved hundreds of millions of lives… and it looks like scientists will continue to find ways to do so.
Science!

HIV does not equal AIDS. To date, there is NO scientific paper that proves this conclusively.

http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/controversy.htm

http://www.duesberg.com/subject/africa2.html
 
Why, because I present information that contradicts popular belief and consensus? Isn't that the childish equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling, "I'm not listening....la-la-la!"
Right. That's why I haven't installed it. Are you really that thick?
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Why, because I present information that contradicts popular belief and consensus? Isn't that the childish equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling, "I'm not listening....la-la-la!"

Right. That's why I haven't installed it. Are you really that thick?

Don't have a hissy fit.....if I could read thoughts through postings, I'd be asking my agent to raise my guest speaking fees (if I had an agent, that is). Get a grip.:rolleyes:
 
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This "open discussion of the facts" has lead to around half a million lives being lost, however.

Some things aren't worth entertaining as legitimate because doing so KILLS PEOPLE.

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/pr...-delay-arv-drug-use-hivaids-south-africa.html
Non sequitur...

We're holding a conversation about an option to ban somebody from a thread and how I chose not to add such an option. There is nothing we do at this site that causes millions of deaths.
 
This "open discussion of the facts" has lead to around half a million lives being lost, however.

Some things aren't worth entertaining as legitimate because doing so KILLS PEOPLE.

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/pr...-delay-arv-drug-use-hivaids-south-africa.html

So all one has to do is keep building on a hypothesis while ignoring other FACTS and then demonizing all who question the mantra. Sorry, but that dog just won't fly:

http://www.duesberg.com/subject/africa2.html
 
For the record, my call for tachi's banning from this thread was mostly rhetorical. But it does, in some ways, limit rational discourse if certain people just go around and try to change any barely related thread to their obsessive subject. I guess that's what APP's for...
 
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