Holiday Blizzard: More Signs of Global Warming
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If you read my posts you would know.
Well, we don't want them to forget do we/
Predictions, April 22, 1970
"The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age."
-- Kenneth Watt, Ecologist
"We have about five more years at the outside to do something."
-- Kenneth Watt, ecologist
"Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind."
-- George Wald, Harvard Biologist
"We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation."
-- Barry Commoner, Washington University biologist
"Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction."
-- New York Times editorial, the day after the first Earth Day
"Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years."
-- Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist
"By...[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s."
-- Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist
"It is already too late to avoid mass starvation."
-- Denis Hayes, chief organizer for Earth Day
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Holiday Blizzard: More Signs of Global Warming
It's become as much a winter tradition as eggnog at Christmas and champagne on New Year's Eve — the first major snowstorm of the year bringing out the climate-change skeptics. And the bona fide blizzard that has frozen much of the Northeast just a few days after winter officially began definitely qualifies as major. But while piles of snow blocking your driveway hardly conjure images of a dangerously warming world, it doesn't mean that climate change is a myth. The World Meteorological Organization recently reported that 2010 is almost certainly going to be one of the three warmest years on record, while 2001 to 2010 is already the hottest decade in recorded history. Indeed, according to some scientists, all of these events may actually be connected.
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Read the rest of the gobbledygook
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2039777,00.html
How they can write this shit and actually believe in it. Was it not just a few years ago they stated snowstorms would be a thing of the past.
The warmers have won, Webbway. How can anyone argue against the following?
Australia flooding
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/12/30/australia-flood-queensland.html(Excerpt) "Water up to 16 metres deep has flooded towns and roads," Sydney-based freelance reporter Peter Hadfield said.(End)
For those who don’t like water we have Australian droughts
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/sciencefair/post/2010/02/620009980/1(Excerpt) Australia's long-standing drought likely arises from global warming, representing a once-in-5,400 years event, suggests Antarctic ice core data.(End)
L.A. experiences a heat wave due to global warming....
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lan...all-time-record-high-temperature.html(Excerpt) It makes Monday the hottest day ever since records in downtown L.A. started being kept in 1877, said Stuart Seto of the National Weather Service. (End)
While Ireland freezes due to global warming.
http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Ir...s-with-big-freeze---SEE-PHOTOS-112177494.html
Ireland ice age continues with big freeze
Wet. Dry. Hot. Cold. They have all the bases covered.
The only solution is to purchase a convertible with a good heater.
LOL onceler, you dumbass, the quote about snowstorms being a thing from the past is from East Anglia's David Viner
Google it, you dumb fuck. He said it a decade ago. I linked this story months ago, but you never bother to follow my link. You're too scared to be proven wrong. Warmer idiot
Google it, you dumb fuck. He said it a decade ago. I linked this story months ago, but you never bother to follow my link. You're too scared to be proven wrong. Warmer idiot
It's hilarious how ignorant warmers are. This news about Viner has been around for a long time. How can you not know about? I'll tell you. By being a mindless parrot who relies on authority to do any heavy mental lifting for them. haha fucking warmers. You guys have the nerve to claim the scientific high ground, but none of you guys are up to date on anything. I linked Odonnell refutes Stieg and you morons didn't have a word to say. I assume you didn't bother to read it.
I don't see how you think you're well informed
I don't see how you think you're well informed
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you did
Are you kidding? Viner is the guy who didn't know rudimentary facts about the CRU letters at the supposed enquiry/whitewash whre he was acting as the CRU representative.
You are clueless. Seriously. I'm not sure what you think you're looking like, but you're going full retard here.
Laugh away as you ignore, warmer. You guys are like fundies. The average person laughs when you talk about global warmers and their scary predictions.
Can you name a single prediction global warmers have made that has come to pass?
What's REALLY hilarious is that I'm not even arguing AGW. I haven't for many years. I have probably posted a few dozen posts on here saying it's a stupid thing to argue.
But you're such a knee-jerker; anytime it's anything with warming or weather, you get all wild-eyed & bananas about it.
Webbway's statement in the 1st post is ridiculous; it's the same thing righties always do..."oh...there's snow & it's cold...where's your warming now?"
LOL
Deranged? No way. I find it hilarious.
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/snowfalls-are-now-just-a-thing-of-the-past-724017.html
Here's the whol article for you, warmer
Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past
By Charles Onians
Monday, 20 March 2000
Britain's winter ends tomorrow with further indications of a striking environmental change: snow is starting to disappear from our lives.
Sledges, snowmen, snowballs and the excitement of waking to find that the stuff has settled outside are all a rapidly diminishing part of Britain's culture, as warmer winters - which scientists are attributing to global climate change - produce not only fewer white Christmases, but fewer white Januaries and Februaries.
The first two months of 2000 were virtually free of significant snowfall in much of lowland Britain, and December brought only moderate snowfall in the South-east. It is the continuation of a trend that has been increasingly visible in the past 15 years: in the south of England, for instance, from 1970 to 1995 snow and sleet fell for an average of 3.7 days, while from 1988 to 1995 the average was 0.7 days. London's last substantial snowfall was in February 1991.
Global warming, the heating of the atmosphere by increased amounts of industrial gases, is now accepted as a reality by the international community. Average temperatures in Britain were nearly 0.6°C higher in the Nineties than in 1960-90, and it is estimated that they will increase by 0.2C every decade over the coming century. Eight of the 10 hottest years on record occurred in the Nineties.
However, the warming is so far manifesting itself more in winters which are less cold than in much hotter summers. According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become "a very rare and exciting event".
"Children just aren't going to know what snow is," he said.
The effects of snow-free winter in Britain are already becoming apparent. This year, for the first time ever, Hamleys, Britain's biggest toyshop, had no sledges on display in its Regent Street store. "It was a bit of a first," a spokesperson said.
Fen skating, once a popular sport on the fields of East Anglia, now takes place on indoor artificial rinks. Malcolm Robinson, of the Fenland Indoor Speed Skating Club in Peterborough, says they have not skated outside since 1997. "As a boy, I can remember being on ice most winters. Now it's few and far between," he said.
Michael Jeacock, a Cambridgeshire local historian, added that a generation was growing up "without experiencing one of the greatest joys and privileges of living in this part of the world - open-air skating".
Warmer winters have significant environmental and economic implications, and a wide range of research indicates that pests and plant diseases, usually killed back by sharp frosts, are likely to flourish. But very little research has been done on the cultural implications of climate change - into the possibility, for example, that our notion of Christmas might have to shift.
Professor Jarich Oosten, an anthropologist at the University of Leiden in the Netherlands, says that even if we no longer see snow, it will remain culturally important.
"We don't really have wolves in Europe any more, but they are still an important part of our culture and everyone knows what they look like," he said.
David Parker, at the Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research in Berkshire, says ultimately, British children could have only virtual experience of snow. Via the internet, they might wonder at polar scenes - or eventually "feel" virtual cold.
Heavy snow will return occasionally, says Dr Viner, but when it does we will be unprepared. "We're really going to get caught out. Snow will probably cause chaos in 20 years time," he said.
The chances are certainly now stacked against the sortof heavy snowfall in cities that inspired Impressionist painters, such as Sisley, and the 19th century poet laureate Robert Bridges, who wrote in "London Snow" of it, "stealthily and perpetually settling and loosely lying".
Not any more, it seems.
Deranged? No way. I find it hilarious.
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/snowfalls-are-now-just-a-thing-of-the-past-724017.html
Here's the whol article for you, warmer
Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past
By Charles Onians
Monday, 20 March 2000
Britain's winter ends tomorrow with further indications of a striking environmental change: snow is starting to disappear from our lives.
Sledges, snowmen, snowballs and the excitement of waking to find that the stuff has settled outside are all a rapidly diminishing part of Britain's culture, as warmer winters - which scientists are attributing to global climate change - produce not only fewer white Christmases, but fewer white Januaries and Februaries.
The first two months of 2000 were virtually free of significant snowfall in much of lowland Britain, and December brought only moderate snowfall in the South-east. It is the continuation of a trend that has been increasingly visible in the past 15 years: in the south of England, for instance, from 1970 to 1995 snow and sleet fell for an average of 3.7 days, while from 1988 to 1995 the average was 0.7 days. London's last substantial snowfall was in February 1991.
Global warming, the heating of the atmosphere by increased amounts of industrial gases, is now accepted as a reality by the international community. Average temperatures in Britain were nearly 0.6°C higher in the Nineties than in 1960-90, and it is estimated that they will increase by 0.2C every decade over the coming century. Eight of the 10 hottest years on record occurred in the Nineties.
However, the warming is so far manifesting itself more in winters which are less cold than in much hotter summers. According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become "a very rare and exciting event".
"Children just aren't going to know what snow is," he said.
The effects of snow-free winter in Britain are already becoming apparent. This year, for the first time ever, Hamleys, Britain's biggest toyshop, had no sledges on display in its Regent Street store. "It was a bit of a first," a spokesperson said.
Fen skating, once a popular sport on the fields of East Anglia, now takes place on indoor artificial rinks. Malcolm Robinson, of the Fenland Indoor Speed Skating Club in Peterborough, says they have not skated outside since 1997. "As a boy, I can remember being on ice most winters. Now it's few and far between," he said.
Michael Jeacock, a Cambridgeshire local historian, added that a generation was growing up "without experiencing one of the greatest joys and privileges of living in this part of the world - open-air skating".
Warmer winters have significant environmental and economic implications, and a wide range of research indicates that pests and plant diseases, usually killed back by sharp frosts, are likely to flourish. But very little research has been done on the cultural implications of climate change - into the possibility, for example, that our notion of Christmas might have to shift.
Professor Jarich Oosten, an anthropologist at the University of Leiden in the Netherlands, says that even if we no longer see snow, it will remain culturally important.
"We don't really have wolves in Europe any more, but they are still an important part of our culture and everyone knows what they look like," he said.
David Parker, at the Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research in Berkshire, says ultimately, British children could have only virtual experience of snow. Via the internet, they might wonder at polar scenes - or eventually "feel" virtual cold.
Heavy snow will return occasionally, says Dr Viner, but when it does we will be unprepared. "We're really going to get caught out. Snow will probably cause chaos in 20 years time," he said.
The chances are certainly now stacked against the sortof heavy snowfall in cities that inspired Impressionist painters, such as Sisley, and the 19th century poet laureate Robert Bridges, who wrote in "London Snow" of it, "stealthily and perpetually settling and loosely lying".
Not any more, it seems.
LOL the warmer switched gears into mocking since he can't defend the warmer propaganda.
First he tries to change the subject by questioning the motivation to reveal bullshit science that's being used to fleece the populace.
Then he switches to straight up trolling.
You really made your case, warmer
First he tries to change the subject by questioning the motivation to reveal bullshit science that's being used to fleece the populace.
Then he switches to straight up trolling.
You really made your case, warmer
I told you; the "crazy stuff" is the reaction, every time this kind of topic comes up.
You're loopy about it, really. Again - I'm not arguing AGW, and haven't in years. I have called people stupid for trying to argue it.
If anything, you have contradicted yourself over the years, since you have stated that the planet is warming, but that man has nothing to do w/ it.
Quote me dickhead!
My position is that AGW is miniscule, not that it doesn't exist. You are a dumbass since you don't even know the arguments
Personally, I'm more than happy to expose your psychosis to the board.
You're so concerned about the alleged "tax bill" for our global warming efforts; I'd love to see you get even a fraction as ticked off about something that you're actually seeing a significant tax bite for.
You're so concerned about the alleged "tax bill" for our global warming efforts; I'd love to see you get even a fraction as ticked off about something that you're actually seeing a significant tax bite for.
Whatever; that's not the part that's contradictory.
The part that's contradictory is that you have said often since the FP days that warming IS occurring, regardless of cause. Then, a post like webbway's here comes along, and you're eating it up w/ a spoon....