Home Prices to fall another 6%

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NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Despite signs that the real estate market might be lurching forward, prices are expected to fall further this year.

The average home price in the United States will fall by about 6% by September 2011, according to Fiserv, a division of Moody's Economy.com. And that's after plunging more than 27% in the past three years.

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Most of the projected home price decline will occur during the usually slow summer months of 2010. After that, prices should begin to stabilize, according to Fiserv, and stay almost flat through fall of 2011.

The main reason for continued decline, according to Mark Zandi, economist and co-founder of Economy.com, is foreclosures -- the same thing that's plagued markets for the past three years.

"Foreclosure sales will pick up this spring as mortgage servicers figure out who can qualify for a modification and who can't," said Zandi.

He figures there are at least 4.5 million mortgage loans either in foreclosure or clearly headed in that direction. When that additional inventory hits the market, it will provide numerous choices for buyers and encourage sellers to drop their listing prices.

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The end of two federal programs, which have been propping up markets, will also tamp down prices.

The Federal Reserve has been purchasing mortgage-backed securities since early 2009, scooping up as much as $1.25 trillion worth. That has dampened rate increases by providing a ready market for the securities. But the Fed's program lapses on March 31, when it cedes the playing field to private investors, who will almost surely demand higher rates.

Any resulting rise in rates will cause some buyers to withdraw from the market and others to look for lower priced homes. Either way, demand for homes drops and so do prices.

A month after the Fed bows out of the mortgage-buying market, the homebuyer tax credit will start to expire. To qualify for the $8,000 credit, homebuyers must sign a contract before April 30 and close by June 30. When the first date passes, many buyers are expected to vacate the market, weakening the demand for homes.

In a broader sense, home prices are ultimately decided by employment. "If [the job market] improvement is stronger than expected, prices will get better. If it's weaker than expected, prices will be worse," Zandi said.

Worst of the worst
The worst performing market will be Miami, Fla. Moody's projects prices there to drop a heart-stopping 29.2% by Sept. 30. That follows a 47.7% decline the metro area recorded in the past three years. Grand total: 64% drop.

Other disastrous performances will be turned in by the Hanford, Calif., metro area, where prices are projected to plummet 27.2% through Sept. 30, 2010 following their 36.9% drop for the previous 36 months. Ft. Lauderdale and West Palm will also register steep drops.

There's some good price news coming out of California's Central Valley for a change; prices will begin to emerge from their free fall toward the end of this year.

In Merced, for example, which crashed and burned by 71.8% in the past three years (through last September), they'll only fall only another 6.2% in the next six months before
 
Expect the market to fall next. People don't have the money to buy stocks. This economy will rival the 1930's.
 
Ugh... I hate seeing this, but the attempts to shore up housing simply pushed off its collapse. Instead of learning from the past we repeat it, create a new "bubble", and watch it pop...
 
the gov should gtf out the way. NO more stimulus and housing credit. Let the free market correct and function.
 
Ugh... I hate seeing this, but the attempts to shore up housing simply pushed off its collapse. Instead of learning from the past we repeat it, create a new "bubble", and watch it pop...

You think the foreclosures that they reference in the article weren't years in the making?
 
You think the foreclosures that they reference in the article weren't years in the making?

I think the stimulus may have delayed the inevitable on some, but from what I have heard from real estate agents, this year will be marred by the 5 year ARM resets from loans back in 2005 and the 3 year ARMS from 2007.

That said, much of the stimulus that has been spent has been in stop gap measures. They stemmed the tide for the short term, but we needed to see long term measures put in place as well.... THIS is where I think the admin and both parties failed the citizens of this country.

Cash for clunkers
Home buyers credits
SS checks
extended benefits for unemployment
aid to the states

All of the above are stop gap measures. None were long term solutions. This is not to say that none of the above were needed or to say that short term stop gaps should never be used. But this is why I have harped on the need to put the bulk of the money to work in the first year. The money designated for longer term solutions is sitting unspent.

We may end up with that double dip while we wait for it to be put to work and take affect.
 
You think the foreclosures that they reference in the article weren't years in the making?
Many of them are the redone mortgages, but yeah much of them are ones that were lying in wait. We are getting hit with a combo serving on this one.
 
I think the stimulus may have delayed the inevitable on some, but from what I have heard from real estate agents, this year will be marred by the 5 year ARM resets from loans back in 2005 and the 3 year ARMS from 2007.

That said, much of the stimulus that has been spent has been in stop gap measures. They stemmed the tide for the short term, but we needed to see long term measures put in place as well.... THIS is where I think the admin and both parties failed the citizens of this country.

Cash for clunkers
Home buyers credits
SS checks
extended benefits for unemployment
aid to the states

All of the above are stop gap measures. None were long term solutions. This is not to say that none of the above were needed or to say that short term stop gaps should never be used. But this is why I have harped on the need to put the bulk of the money to work in the first year. The money designated for longer term solutions is sitting unspent.

We may end up with that double dip while we wait for it to be put to work and take affect.

what are you long term solutions for the stimulus money? more government jobs?
 
what are you long term solutions for the stimulus money? more government jobs?

they could have put those billions in new green businesses, solar panels for homes, wind farms etc. Then they would get annual benefits instead of flushing it down the entitlement toilet.
 
I think the stimulus may have delayed the inevitable on some, but from what I have heard from real estate agents, this year will be marred by the 5 year ARM resets from loans back in 2005 and the 3 year ARMS from 2007.

That said, much of the stimulus that has been spent has been in stop gap measures. They stemmed the tide for the short term, but we needed to see long term measures put in place as well.... THIS is where I think the admin and both parties failed the citizens of this country.

Cash for clunkers
Home buyers credits
SS checks
extended benefits for unemployment
aid to the states

All of the above are stop gap measures. None were long term solutions. This is not to say that none of the above were needed or to say that short term stop gaps should never be used. But this is why I have harped on the need to put the bulk of the money to work in the first year. The money designated for longer term solutions is sitting unspent.

We may end up with that double dip while we wait for it to be put to work and take affect.

I can't really disagree with a lot of that. However, I always saw the stimulus as kind of a stop-gap - something to stem the bleeding, while more private elements of the economy righted themselves & got things humming again.

To see it as more than a stop-gap is basically saying that the government plays a bigger role in the economy than I personally think it has overall. I think the gov't can be a catalyst for certain factors in the economy, but ultimately, the fate of things depends much more on the private sector.
 
I can't really disagree with a lot of that. However, I always saw the stimulus as kind of a stop-gap - something to stem the bleeding, while more private elements of the economy righted themselves & got things humming again.

To see it as more than a stop-gap is basically saying that the government plays a bigger role in the economy than I personally think it has overall. I think the gov't can be a catalyst for certain factors in the economy, but ultimately, the fate of things depends much more on the private sector.

Without question the stimulus was meant as a stop gap, but it is the duration of the stop gap that matters. You have essentially the emergency triage at the scene of the accident (stop the major bleeding). Then you have the emergency surgery (this provides a longer term solution).

The government is not meant to provide jobs for decades on end or anything. That said, they are responsible for a big chunk of our infrastructure build out. Bridges, roads, dams, levees etc....

Put the money to work in those jobs while the labor market is weak. It is money we have to spend at some point in the future. Bring THAT money to bear NOW. It is then spending money we would have spent in the future and bringing it to the economy today.

This benefits the economy today in providing jobs. It also benefits the country in the long run as the costs of these projects can be mitigated given that the cost of materials and labor are going to be less in a loose labor market than they would in a tight labor market.

As the remainder of the economy stabilizes and recovers, then you can start to decrease the labor force for infrastructure.
 
they could have put those billions in new green businesses, solar panels for homes, wind farms etc. Then they would get annual benefits instead of flushing it down the entitlement toilet.

Add to that bridges, roads, dams, levees, broadband capacity etc....

all of which provide long term benefits to the country. All of which are desperately needed.

The other thing they could have done is open up our production of nat gas and oil. providing yet MORE jobs HERE in the US, keeping the environmental protection requirements in our hands and also keeping the MONEY here in the future buying our own oil and nat gas rather than someone else's (at least buying less of foreign than we otherwise would)
 
I know about 1/3 of the spending portion of the stimulus is for transportation & infrastructure. I can't find anything on the timeline of that spending, though; where have you read or seen that it isn't being spent as of yet?
 
Ugh... I hate seeing this, but the attempts to shore up housing simply pushed off its collapse. Instead of learning from the past we repeat it, create a new "bubble", and watch it pop...

I have friends and family in Orange County (SoCal) on the ocean and people in multi million dollar homes are begging for tenants to rent out rooms to help meet their mortgage payment.

One friend is renting a room with a private entrance, access to a swimming pool, tennis courts, private bathroom and kitchen for $575 per month.

In this area, that is a STEAL!

California is in deep trouble.
 
I have friends and family in Orange County (SoCal) on the ocean and people in multi million dollar homes are begging for tenants to rent out rooms to help meet their mortgage payment.

One friend is renting a room with a private entrance, access to a swimming pool, tennis courts, private bathroom and kitchen for $575 per month.

In this area, that is a STEAL!

California is in deep trouble.

sweet Santa Cruz is on my shortlist for retirement
 
I know about 1/3 of the spending portion of the stimulus is for transportation & infrastructure. I can't find anything on the timeline of that spending, though; where have you read or seen that it isn't being spent as of yet?

Just from trying to decipher the data on recovery.gov website...
 
Add to that bridges, roads, dams, levees, broadband capacity etc....

all of which provide long term benefits to the country. All of which are desperately needed.

The other thing they could have done is open up our production of nat gas and oil. providing yet MORE jobs HERE in the US, keeping the environmental protection requirements in our hands and also keeping the MONEY here in the future buying our own oil and nat gas rather than someone else's (at least buying less of foreign than we otherwise would)

i can agree with that....our highway system was a world wonder at one point

i apparently have this wrong, but i thought you were against FDR doing just that...?
 
i can agree with that....our highway system was a world wonder at one point

i apparently have this wrong, but i thought you were against FDR doing just that...?

Nope... I have no problem with infrastructure jobs being ramped up by the Fed. They have to do those anyway. It is simply a question of timing.
 
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