How can it be...it ain't even a human being .....

bravo said:
Its all magic.....one second before birth, its not a human being and presto chango....the next second it is....

The wonders of biology.....desh, you obviously must have a PHD....., right.


If you called it an apple or an orange instead of fetus, it could be called a fruit.
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It's actually not a life until it gets home from the hospital with its family, until then it can be aborted.

According to the great Barbera Boxers interpretation of roe vs wade.
 
evince said:
not anywhere but inside her flesh can it survive.


It will NEVER be a human being if she deems it so.


Its her insides NOT yours to decide this
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So why do people get charged with murder when their criminal acts cause the death of an unborn?
Or is it a life sometimes and not a life other times?
 
Haiku said:
Mansplaining in all it's glory.
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So you cannot apply a logical explanation to this disparity?

When does this life begin?

Barbera Boxer says it is not human for 2 or 3 days after birth, do you agree with her?
Or is its right to life only subject to its mothers whims until it can stand up for itself?
 
You do realize that abortion can be reduced with reliable access to affordable birth control? Otherwise abortions are required in medical conditions or rape or incest...you won't be stoping women from controlling their reproductive health. Popping kids out every year is not healthy to the women or their kids. Family planning is very important. Abortion has to be part of that and available when needed. You may dislike it but you don't have to make that decision. It's none of your business.
 
Haiku said:
You do realize that abortion can be reduced with reliable access to affordable birth control? Otherwise abortions are required in medical conditions or rape or incest...you won't be stoping women from controlling their reproductive health. Popping kids out every year is not healthy to the women or their kids. Family planning is very important. Abortion has to be part of that and available when needed. You may dislike it but you don't have to make that decision. It's none of your business.
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So when does life begin, 2 to 3 days after birth as Barbera Boxer insists?

Why is it murder to kill an unborn if it is not a life?

Come on, these are laws passed by liberals, give us lesser people a logical explanation.
 
Birth control pills are safe and should be sold over-the-counter without the need for a doctor's exam or prescription, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) recommended Wednesday.

Noting that half of all pregnancies in the United States are unintended -- a rate unchanged in 20 years -- ACOG said easier access to oral contraceptives could help reduce the number of unintended pregnancies.

"It's unfortunate that in this country where we have all these contraceptive methods available, unintended pregnancy is still a major public health problem," Dr. Kavita Nanda, a scientist with the North Carolina nonprofit FHI 360 (formerly known as Family Health International), told the Associated Press.
http://www.examiner.com/article/ob-gyns-endorse-over-the-counter-birth-control-pills
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Gee providing easier access to birth control as method of reducing the number of unwanted pregnancies, and therefore abortions in this country.

How could anybody possibly be against that?

Just wait, you know they'll find a reason. Just like they did for the "morning after" pill.

Just like so much else wingers refuse to operate using facts...they rely on opinion and false argument. If you want to discuss this issue you have to move beyond your comfort zone and you can't do it so you resort to all manner of brow beating and declare yourselves the 'winner' in contests that don't exist.
 
Haiku said:
Gee providing easier access to birth control as method of reducing the number of unwanted pregnancies, and therefore abortions in this country.

How could anybody possibly be against that?
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I don't recall anyone saying they were against it, just that it's not their responsibility to pay for it.
 
So all this liberal arrogance quoting science over belief and logic over feelings is thrown out on this issue!!

No logic, just blind obedience to the contradictory dogma of your party!
 
No, a difference of opinion. Free birth control is the answer to your concern but you refuse to acknowledge it due to your unyielding stinginess. It makes no sense to me that you would throw millions away on the military, non-green industry, the 1% etc etc but refuse to spend some money on something that you say you care about. It just shows the usual rightwing hypocrisy.
 
Haiku said:
No, a difference of opinion. Free birth control is the answer to your concern but you refuse to acknowledge it due to your unyielding stinginess. It makes no sense to me that you would throw millions away on the military, non-green industry, the 1% etc etc but refuse to spend some money on something that you say you care about. It just shows the usual rightwing hypocrisy.
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free birth control is the answer? free guns sounds like the answer to freedom from tyranny as well. acknowledge?
 
Haiku said:
No, a difference of opinion. Free birth control is the answer to your concern but you refuse to acknowledge it due to your unyielding stinginess. It makes no sense to me that you would throw millions away on the military, non-green industry, the 1% etc etc but refuse to spend some money on something that you say you care about. It just shows the usual rightwing hypocrisy.
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I think people should take responsibility for themselves, no hypocrisy.

Your opinions though are illogical. Hypocritical and unintelligible, worse still you refuse to explain them!!
 
007 said:
I think people should take responsibility for themselves, no hypocrisy.

Your opinions though are illogical. Hypocritical and unintelligible, worse still you refuse to explain them!!
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they are unexplainable, based totally on an emotional mindset of 'i don't like that'.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
they are unexplainable, based totally on an emotional mindset of 'i don't like that'.
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But what about science, the liberals always demand scientific support for opinions they disagree with/despise!
They never just disagree, despise, they despise!
 
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