How Carter beat Reagan...

Threedee said:
Guess we'll have to table this.

If the election passes, and the polling proves to be way off, it will be an interesting conversation to pick back up. :cof1:
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As I tried to explain in the OP... this was more of a discussion on what DID happen in 1980 rather than a 'is it happening now'. But certain douchebags are not intelligent enough to comprehend that and thus they launch feeble little attacks on the author.
 
General Buck Turgidson said:
Meanwhile, let's discuss this:

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Very funny, I love this book. I almost bought it at the time for sheer humor factor. Dick Morris has hated the Clintons since they fired him for sharing state secrets with a prostitute in a Wash DC hotel room. Now he is the fox news conservative darling, they love him!
 
Superfreak said:
Except for the content of the article. you know, the one where the media polls showed Carter in 'close' races, yet he got crushed in all but one of them.

But thank you again for confirming you are a no talent hack. Seriously, if you don't want to discuss content.. why do you even bother with your petty little attacks on the author?
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I love how you post a piece of shit form the hackiest of all hacks, Dick Morris, then complain when I point out that Dick Morris is the hackiest of all hacks by calling me a hack. It's so post-modern.
 
So, cons keep refering back to the Carter Reagan race.

I will agree that if something major happens between now and the election, (such as a failed helocptor mission to rescue 19 American hostages held in Iran) then Romney's chances will go up dramatically.
 
General Buck Turgidson said:
I love how you post a piece of shit form the hackiest of all hacks, Dick Morris, then complain when I point out that Dick Morris is the hackiest of all hacks by calling me a hack. It's so post-modern.
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Dick Morris is a hack. But he knows polling. Who do you think did all of the polling for Clinton when he was in trouble? I bet you didn't mind Dick Morris then. He probably only became a hack to you when he switched sides.

Sorta like the way you overlooked Robert "sheets" Byrd being a recruiter for the KKK
 
FactsRStubborn said:
Dick Morris is a hack. But he knows polling. Who do you think did all of the polling for Clinton when he was in trouble? I bet you didn't mind Dick Morris then. He probably only became a hack to you when he switched sides.

Sorta like the way you overlooked Robert "sheets" Byrd being a recruiter for the KKK
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Morris allows his hatred for the Clintons blind his ability to be an effective pollster, plus he knows who pays his check, he basically gets paid to say outlandish things negative about Democrats.
 
Jarod said:
I dont know that the polls are accurate or that they are not going to change between now and NOvember, but I DO love how desperate the Republicans have become over the polls and how the screams about the "liberal corporate media" is fighting for President Obama.

I smell defeat for the Republicans in the air.
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And this is exactly the purpose of media bias in the poling data. They need to keep pinheads like you enthused, believing victory is entirely likely, if you'll just go vote. You see, if all the polls indicated Romney had a huge insurmountable lead, you would become discouraged and probably not even bother casting a ballot. Ideally, they would like to show Obama with an insurmountable lead, but people aren't that stupid. So they continue to pound into your little pinhead brain, that the race is close and Obama is leading, but it all depends on YOU voting!

They've discovered they can maintain credibility after the fact by saying, there was a last minute surge, or republicans had a heavier turnout than expected, or swing votes broke for the GOP candidate... but by golly, they'll improve their models and have it right in 4 years!
 
I don't believe that the polling is biased, I simply think they use the wrong models. The models they are using is based on the turnout in 2008, but this election's turnout will be much different than that one.
 
Damocles said:
I don't believe that the polling is biased, I simply think they use the wrong models. The models they are using is based on the turnout in 2008, but this election's turnout will be much different than that one.
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But then the next question should be why are they using those models?
 
General Buck Turgidson said:
I love how you post a piece of shit form the hackiest of all hacks, Dick Morris, then complain when I point out that Dick Morris is the hackiest of all hacks by calling me a hack. It's so post-modern.
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So once again, you whine and cry about the author. Once again you are too much of a coward to actually address the articles content. Why don't you simply shut the fuck up and move on to another thread if you don't like this one???? Why must you derail thread after thread with your petty attacks on the authors?

Like I stated Polly, you are indeed the biggest of hacks. Tell us again... which President did Morris last serve under?
 
Superfreak said:
http://spectator.org/archives/2012/09/25/how-carter-beat-reagan

interesting read on the polling from 1980 and 1984.

To the parrots/lemmings/Obama worshipers... no, I am not saying the polling is this biased this time around...
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I will repost the OP... obviously dung is going to keep beating his dead horse... This thread is not about this years election, nor is it about the author of the article. It was about the media in the early 80's. It was about how far off their supposedly fair polls were.
 
Superfreak said:
So once again, you whine and cry about the author. Once again you are too much of a coward to actually address the articles content. Why don't you simply shut the fuck up and move on to another thread if you don't like this one???? Why must you derail thread after thread with your petty attacks on the authors?

Like I stated Polly, you are indeed the biggest of hacks. Tell us again... which President did Morris last serve under?
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Why should anyone take anything that he says under serious consideration? You seem to think that the fact that something is said, whatever it is and whomever says it, requires that it be treated as something worthy of high-minded consideration. I disagree. When people like Dick Morris say stuff, it's OK to just point and laugh. So I'm pointing and laughing. You are free to ignore me if you wish.
 
Superfreak said:
agreed
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I like the whole, "I'm not saying that this year's polls are biased, but he's an article from a Republican moron that says that polls a thirty years ago were biased and by the way, some people are saying that this year's polls are biased but not me" schtick. It's hilarious. It's like Damo posting birther shit years after any birther stuff had the remotest of relevance while claiming that he isn't a birther and doesn't support their cause.

You dipshits are tremendously transparent.
 
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