How Democrats Eviscerated the Nazis

[Into the Night]

ironic that the demmycrats now ARE the nazis.....

Not Nazis, but like Nazis, fascists and tyrants.
This isn't Germany and this isn't 1945.

 

[Into the Night]

I would say it wasn't a foregone conclusion that Allied policy would be to refuse to negotiate with dictators, tear apart Germany's military, occupy them, build them from the ground up, and force democracy on them.

Those were policy and political choices.

No allied soldier ever set foot in Imperial Germany in 1918, an armistice was called.

From an American isolationist point of view, the American involvement in the war would have been shorter and less costly if we gave Hitler terms, only expelled him from North Africa and France, stopped at the Rhine, and let the Soviet Army try to finish Hitler off. Hitler never really wanted to fight France and Britain. He was looking East.

No one forced a democracy on Germany. Indeed, it's not possible to force a democracy.

 

[Into the Night]

After Pearl Harbor isolationist were in the minority!

Before Pearl Harbor isolationists were in the minority.

 

[Into the Night]

Unconditional surrender is the exception, not the rule in warfare. Hitler probably held out hope to the end that the western allies would give him terms, so he could focus on the Soviets.

Nope. It's the rule in warfare.

 

[Into the Night]

Stalin wasn't involved in the war on Japan (except for the last five days), and for Churchill the Pacific theater was totally secondary in importance.

The fact that FDR also demanded unconditional surrender by Japan undermines your claim that Roosevelt was
totally squeamish about seeking the complete obliteration and unconditional surrender of America's foes

FDR didn't demand unconditional surrender.
The people did.

 

[Into the Night]

Can anyone say Operation Paperclip?

What about it? You want to start a new subtopic?

 

[Mason Michaels]

No, the whole point of the Ardennes offensive of December 1944 was to knock the allies back on their heels and make them consider offering terms and a separate peace with Hitler so he could turn his full attention back to the Red Army.

By Dec '44 ,even if western allies made a deal,it was to late to stop the Russians from wiping out Germany's armies.

 

[Cypress]

FDR didn't demand unconditional surrender.
The people did.

Americans didn't demand an unconditional surrender and military occupation of the vanquished enemy nation in the First World War, the 1991 Gulf War, the Spanish-American War, the War of 1812, the war against the Barbary pirate states.

You just blurted out that all wars end the way WW2 ended without even thinking about it..

When FDR announced the policy of unconditional surrender and the wholesale dismantling of the German government and institutions at the 1943 Casablanca conference it was a provocative and bold step, and with hindsight the absolutely correct choice to prolong the war to achieve those aims.

 

[Into the Night]

Americans didn't demand an unconditional surrender and military occupation of the vanquished enemy nation in the First World War,

Yes they did. The result was the disaster of the Treaty of Versailles, which eventually started WW2.

the 1991 Gulf War,

Yes they did.

the Spanish-American War,

Yes they did. They got it too.

the War of 1812,

Yes they did. They got it too.

the war against the Barbary pirate states.

Yes they did. The pirates were destroyed.

You just blurted out that all wars end the way WW2 ended without even thinking about it..

Never did. You are hallucinating again.

When FDR announced the policy of unconditional surrender and the wholesale dismantling of the German government and institutions at the 1943 Casablanca conference it was a provocative and bold step, and with hindsight the absolutely correct choice to prolong the war to achieve those aims.

He did not make the policy.