How Long?

Port Tack said:
Where can they go? Not going into Israel, Egypt doesn't want them in the Sinai. Swim is their only option.
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Any of the 8 official refugee camps in the Gaza strip.
Beach camp.
Bureij camp.
Deir El-Balah Camp.
Jabalia Camp.
Khan Younis Camp.
Maghazi camp.
Nuseirat camp.
Rafah camp.
 
martin said:
Right, the Gaza Strip doesn't have elections, nor did the populace ask to be there. It's where fate put them.

Easy to demonize whole populations when you're secure in your ignorance about them.
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Legislative elections were held in the Palestinian territories on 25 January 2006 in order to elect the second Palestinian Legislative Council (PLC), the legislature of the Palestinian National Authority (PNA). The result was a victory for Hamas, contesting under the list name of Change and Reform, which received 44.45% of the vote and won 74 of the 132 seats, whilst the ruling Fatah received 41.43% of the vote and won 45 seats.

If you allow yourself to be ruled by a group or party that swears destruction of your neighbor and that neighbor is 100 times more powerful than you I'd move. They could relocate to the West Bank. Palistinians there are NOT ruled by Hamas.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
I think Hamas' general actions, particularly the slaughter of women, children, and babies has ended any possibility of that for the short-term. I also suspect that there are few Hamas combatants still within Israel and any that are, are either laying low and trying to figure how the fuck to escape. I don't think Hamas has the forces within Israel to make an attempt on a prison to free their comrades.
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I see pictures of what they say is Israel destroying the Gaza but for every building you see flattened there are still 100 standing? They need to move in a wave with tanks and not leave a single building standing behind them until they reach the sea. Anyone left alive that you want to call innocent you take in ships and drop in the sea off the coast of the Sinai or Lebanon and let them deal with them. They just butchered 1000 Isreali's all of them innocent, decapitated some and drug their heads around behind their vehicles. Gaza needs to be an example and every single breathing Pal needs to be one way or another, ejected from Gaza.
 
Port Tack said:
Legislative elections were held in the Palestinian territories on 25 January 2006 in order to elect the second Palestinian Legislative Council (PLC), the legislature of the Palestinian National Authority (PNA). The result was a victory for Hamas, contesting under the list name of Change and Reform, which received 44.45% of the vote and won 74 of the 132 seats, whilst the ruling Fatah received 41.43% of the vote and won 45 seats.

If you allow yourself to be ruled by a group or party that swears destruction of your neighbor and that neighbor is 100 times more powerful than you I'd move. They could relocate to the West Bank. Palistinians there are NOT ruled by Hamas.
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Really? Does Israel allow them to relocate to the West Bank? Gaza is basically a concentration camp where Palestinians are bullied by Israel and Hamas. A resistance was raised against Hamas in 2014 and the fighters were tortured and killed.
This is what the Palestinians are up against.
 
Port Tack said:
Legislative elections were held in the Palestinian territories on 25 January 2006 in order to elect the second Palestinian Legislative Council (PLC), the legislature of the Palestinian National Authority (PNA). The result was a victory for Hamas, contesting under the list name of Change and Reform, which received 44.45% of the vote and won 74 of the 132 seats, whilst the ruling Fatah received 41.43% of the vote and won 45 seats.

If you allow yourself to be ruled by a group or party that swears destruction of your neighbor and that neighbor is 100 times more powerful than you I'd move. They could relocate to the West Bank. Palistinians there are NOT ruled by Hamas.
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Half the adult population of Gaza was not of voting age in January, 2006, or not living there. So Hamas hasn't submitted to anything like a popular vote for 17 years. Not that this should matter anyway in weighing the question of holding a population, including its children, elderly and infirm, physically accountable for the outrages their government commits.

The argument this and the post you quoted replied to: "they should have thought of having their city and families destroyed before they elected Hamas", is moral rubbish
 
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martin said:
Half the adult population of Gaza was not of voting age in January, 2006, or not living there. So Hamas hasn't submitted to anything like a popular vote for 17 years. Not that this should matter anyway in weighing the question of holding a population, including its children, elderly and infirm, physically accountable for the outrages their government commits.

The argument this and the post you quoted replied to: "they should have thought of having their city and families destroyed before they elected Hamas", is moral rubbish
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Well Israel is going to remove their Hamas overlords. You should be happy for the peace loving Palestinians.

BTW Recent survey found out that 58% of Palestinians support Hamas.
 
Port Tack said:
If I were Isreal there would be no Pals in Gaza when done.
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That isn't going to happen because no one else wants the assholes either. I know I did not like my Palestinian brother-in-law but COVID fixed that situation. He is the only person I have ever refused to let come to my house.
 
ExpressLane said:
I don't blame them but there are 68 refugee camps near Gaza and 8 in the Gaza strip.
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Near Gaza? You mean in Israel. Israel is going to raise the chidren of parents that they just finished anniliating in Gaza for bombing Israel? What do you suppose those children will grow up to be? Isn't that how we ended up with Hamas in the first place?

8 camps in the Gaza strip? If I were Israel I would use this war as justification to expell every single palistinian from Gaza. If you don't the next one will be in about 10 years when the next generation tries to do it just like they did 10 years ago and 10 years before that. A palistinian Gaza means another brutal terrorist attack eventually, why not put an end to it. It may sound harsh but insuring this happening again and again is pretty harsh too.
 
Port Tack said:
Near Gaza? You mean in Israel. Israel is going to raise the chidren of parents that they just finished anniliating in Gaza for bombing Israel? What do you suppose those children will grow up to be? Isn't that how we ended up with Hamas in the first place?

8 camps in the Gaza strip? If I were Israel I would use this war as justification to expell every single palistinian from Gaza. If you don't the next one will be in about 10 years when the next generation tries to do it just like they did 10 years ago and 10 years before that. A palistinian Gaza means another brutal terrorist attack eventually, why not put an end to it. It may sound harsh but insuring this happening again and again is pretty harsh too.
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Nope. While I agree that as long as there are any Palestinians alive this will happen again every 15 years or so. But I can't see that any one will stand for exterminating the Palestinians. I know I wouldn't and I doubt you would either. I have seen videos taken in Palestinian public elementary schools of kids in a play enacting the murders of Jews with rubber knives and fake suicide vests. (it was a criminal case evidence) Their mothers were ulateing and clapping. It's hard to wipe out that kind of fanaticism.

I do think Israel needs to use this as an excuse to blow up Iran's nuclear capability before it is too late.
 
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