how many on this site have been burglarized and/or robbed

have you been burglarized/robbed

  • burglarized

    Votes: 7 53.8%

  • robbed

    Votes: 3 23.1%

  • neither

    Votes: 5 38.5%
  • Total voters
    13
  • Poll closed .
I have been burglarized twice, both were quite a few years ago.
 
Burgled once, mugged once, wife was mugged too, but my maternal grandparents retired to Sanford Fla. in the 80's.
 
I've actually never had a crime perpetuated against me in my life. I live in a very rural area, miles away from the nearest town (of 3000 people), and I was born after the crime wave of the 70's and 80's that most posters here went through. My family's never even bothered to lock our doors at night. I suppose, upon reflection, that this has influenced the extremely rosy view of criminal policy that I once supported. In recent years, I've tempered back somewhat from there (I used to be nigh obsessed with the barbarity of the US justice system), although I'm still well to the left of the average American on law and order issues. And I've completely lost all faith in the supposedly good nature of man.
 
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My place got busted into once along time ago.

I had just gotten some extra primo "oregano" for my birthday and two days after being generous and sharing, someone busted into my house, but took nothing...nothing but the "oregano" I had stashed.

I did enjoy a bit of a laugh, though. The thief also found a bag of catnip I kept on top of my refrigerator and took it too...I'm guessing he thought it was more "oregano".

I often ponder whether smoking that shit gave the punk the irresistible urge to play with a ball of yarn.
 
Alexander Hamilton said:
I've actually never had a crime perpetuated against me in my life, actually. I live in a very rural area, miles away from the nearest town (of 3000 people), and I was born after the crime wave of the 70's and 80's that most posters here went through. My family's never even bothered to lock our doors at night. I suppose, upon reflection, that this has influenced the extremely rosy view of criminal policy that I once supported. In recent years, I've tempered back somewhat from there (I used to be nigh obsessed with the barbarity of the US justice system), although I'm still well to the left of the average American on law and order issues. And I've completely lost all faith in the supposedly good nature of man.
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Thats called 'growing up'.......seems you have a way to go yet.....and still kinda got it ass backwards.....

Some brutality by the police is understandable, considering they deal with the worst of the worst in most cases....their lives on the line every time they clock into work....
unacceptable but understandable......
and the good nature of the majority of people all over the world far outweighs the occasional asshole you meet in your daily life.....
 
bravo said:
Thats called 'growing up'.......seems you have a way to go yet.....and still kinda got it ass backwards.....

Some brutality by the police is understandable, considering they deal with the worst of the worst in most cases....their lives on the line every time they clock into work....
unacceptable but understandable......
and the good nature of the majority of people all over the world far outweighs the occasional asshole you meet in your daily life.....
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I don't really think it's an inevitable product of "growing up". I was largely alone in my views as a child. It's not at all the case that kids start out left-wing on law and order issues and slowly grow more bitter with time. There is perhaps something naive about having too rosy a view, of course, but there is also something immature about the "Rah! Rah! Rah! Lock 'em up n' throw away the key!" posturing that's so popular in America.

Also, it's simply the case that a lot of crime is just perfectly rational. If you lower the penalties too much, or enforcement becomes less effective, it's only natural that some people are going to realize there's gap and take advantage. This isn't even because they're nature is necessarily "evil". Humans have some collective instincts, and some revulsion to doing what is wrong, but we are not insects, and our reproductive system isn't collective, and evolution would simply be doing a bad job if humans didn't have any tendency to see those weak points and exploit them for their own advantage, and rationalize away any morality. The purpose of retribution, in this light, is to make what would otherwise be rational irrational.

Now, there is some irrational crime as well, and rehabilitation would be most useful there. But we shouldn't pretend as if this is the case for all criminals. If you want to reduce the necessary barbarity of retribution, you should focuse on enforcement, because the more likely it is that a criminal is going to be caught, the less rational the crime is, and the less you need to rely on raw retribution to make up for things.
 
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