THAT would be reform. Independent Review Boards wresting control from the District Attorneys.
Huge Protests Across U.S. Fuel Push for Police Reform
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THAT would be reform. Independent Review Boards wresting control from the District Attorneys.
jacksonsprat22
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jacksonsprat22
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I am radical left. I don't like violent riots and looting. Who are you referring to? Cite something.
T. A. Gardner
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'Derek the Knee' will be sacrificed (20 years in Prison). The other Rookies fired and given meaningless sentences.
Not real confident much will change.
Two out of four are going to get their jobs back with no charges most likely because they were doing crowd control and were junior in rank. Their defense will be the senior officer told them to control the bystanders and they weren't aware or watching what was going on with Floyd. That's going to be a very hard defense to beat or get a conviction from. Their reinstatement is also likely since their firing has to show cause and the inability to convict them on any charge or point out what they did wrong professionally is going to be equally difficult.
The supervisor can plead that his attention was divided among tasks. Hence, he's likely to get off on lessor charges most likely civil rather than criminal and get no more than a demotion or reprimand and retain his job.
The one guy screwed in this is Derek what's-his-name who used the knee hold. He will have a very difficult time showing why it was necessary and why the death of Floyd was an accident rather than deliberate or that he should have known Floyd was dying.
That's the way I see it right now.
I guess you are right ... if you consider the 'Sons of Liberty' the radical Left.
"Boston Tea Party
The Boston Tea Party was a political and mercantile protest by the Sons of Liberty in Boston, Massachusetts, on December 16, 1773. The target was the Tea Act of May 10, 1773, which allowed the British East India Company to sell tea from China in American colonies without paying taxes apart from those imposed by the Townshend Acts.Wikipedia
T. A. Gardner
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By the standards of the time, they were...
I don't have a Crystal Ball. I view it more like a 'political trial', where the end result has to meet a political agenda. Derek has to take the Fall, that's already in the Cards.
T. A. Gardner
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Exhales heavily... The statement wasn't some all-inclusive one. It was a generalization. You can look up a list of violent general strikes, and large riots to see that I'm correct. For example, every time there's a G7 summit meeting, there's a massive violent riot by Leftists against it.
None of that says that the radical Right doesn't do violence or not riot. They just don't do it as frequently or on the scale the Left does. It also doesn't mean every Leftist or radical Leftist is violent but rather that there is a large, even majority, subset that does.
So, don't take the statement personally.
Violence works. Protesting 'peacefully', not so much.
--->"The Black Panthers: Vanguard of the Revolution
The Black Panthers: Vanguard of the Revolution is a 2015 American documentary film directed and written by Stanley Nelson Jr. The film combines archival footage and interviews with surviving Panthers and FBI agents to tell the story of the revolutionary black organization Black Panther Party.Wikipedia"
In my opinion, more relevant in social change than 'peaceful protest'.
T. A. Gardner
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I held up the Freddy Grey incident in Baltimore as an example. The DA there was acting politically and got her ass handed to her when the trials actually started months later. The officers all walked and the charges got quietly dropped. The MSM pretty much tried to ignore the outcomes because they didn't fit their original narrative.
The same goes here. By the time the first officer goes to trial-- and it's likely to be one of the ones with the least charges first-- most or all of the fervor over this case will have disappeared. If that case gets tossed it will not even create a ripple in the media. But, if Derek what's-his-name gets convicted of murder that will be on the front page for days as the media goes into a feeding frenzy. His case is likely the last to go to trial too.
"In a May 4, 2015, interview on Fox News, Alan Dershowitz said that he believes Mosby overcharged the officers in an attempt to satisfy protesters and prevent further disturbances.[82] Former Baltimore Prosecutor Page Croyder penned an op-ed in The Baltimore Sun where she described Mosby's charges as reflecting "either incompetence or an unethical recklessness".[83] Croyder opined that Mosby circumvented normal procedures "to step into the national limelight", and that she "pandered to the public", creating an expectation of a conviction.[83]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Freddie_Gray
The Show Trial had it's intended results.
Loving91390
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Derek Chauvin was a racist cop,
a registered Democrat,
working for a Democrat Police Chief,
voted into office by Democrat voters,
in a Democrat controlled city,
in a Democrat controlled state.
He had 18 complaints against him and was let off multiple times by Democrat prosecutor, now Democrat Senator and failed Democrat presidential candidate Amy Klobuchar.
But somehow it's all Trump's fault??????
a registered Democrat,
working for a Democrat Police Chief,
voted into office by Democrat voters,
in a Democrat controlled city,
in a Democrat controlled state.
He had 18 complaints against him and was let off multiple times by Democrat prosecutor, now Democrat Senator and failed Democrat presidential candidate Amy Klobuchar.
But somehow it's all Trump's fault??????
jacksonsprat22
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Not personally. Just take it as a false statement meant to obscure the issue of black protests.
T. A. Gardner
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Not at all. And, from the look of those protests, I'd say most of the protesters aren't Black.
To give but one example from LA:
I see one Black guy in that picture. Want to bet on the politics of the rest of the people standing there and how many are Conservative or Republican?
Truck Fump / h1b
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Not at all. And, from the look of those protests, I'd say most of the protesters aren't Black.
To give but one example from LA:
I see one Black guy in that picture. Want to bet on the politics of the rest of the people standing there and how many are Conservative or Republican?
you're such a bad propagandist.
T. A. Gardner
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Truck Fump / h1b
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How many photos would satisfy you?
are you saying they're predominantly conservative? race is not political persuasion.
T. A. Gardner
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No, I'm saying the protesters are predominately Progressive, Leftist, and White. That is to say they're the same bunch that protested when it was Own Wall Street. It's the same bunch that shows up at any antigovernment, anti-social norm protest. They may not be on the level of violence say, Antifa is, but they have much the same set of values and expectations.
Truck Fump / h1b
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sorry I misunderstood you. I apologize.
T. A. Gardner
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Accepted and thank you.