Because many other jobs were still being lost. The stimulus never promised that it would stop business from laying people off completely.
Do you understand what a baseline is in economic terms?
Hugo Chávez says Obama is 'a clown and an embarrassment'
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Because many other jobs were still being lost. The stimulus never promised that it would stop business from laying people off completely.
Do you understand what a baseline is in economic terms?
Poor, bravs - you can't escape the fact that this is the post you were responding to, with your claim that I don't hold Obama responsible for anything.
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So millions of jobs were saved and created, yet unemployment went up because businesses laid people off. So what was the stimulus for and where did it go?
The stimulus saved & created millions of specific jobs. While it was doing that, millions of other specific jobs were being lost.
It really isn't a hard concept.
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Sounds like a con game to me. Where did the money go?
To the new jobs.
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What kinds of new jobs and where are they?
I'm not hear to educate you; you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. The info is out there at the CBO's website, and there is also info on recovery.org.
You really shouldn't engage in discussions on this without having a clue.
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LOL. That's what I thought.
What - that you don't have a clue?
If you realized that, why did you post on this thread?
You don't know what a baseline is, and have no idea what the stimulus did. None.
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Only in liberal la la land can rising unemployment be called "millions of jobs created". Next thing you'll want me to believe is that Solyndra is a successful business and is hiring thousands.
The CBO is not a "liberal in la la land." Do you know what the CBO is, and what they do?
And you don't seem to be able to grasp something that is a very, very simple concept: jobs can be created, while others are still being lost.
Do you know how dumb that makes you look?
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I don't appear as dumb as the person telling me that almost a trillion dollars created millions of jobs, yet unemployment rose.
You do, though, because that isn't a dumb concept. Unemployment would go down only if there were not simultaneous job losses on the scale we were seeing.
That doesn't negate the fact that the jobs were created.
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[h=1]Hugo Chávez says Obama is 'a clown and an embarrassment'[/h] Venezuelan president makes comments after US leader criticises his links with Iran and Cuba in a newspaper interview
On the eve of his first official overseas trip since being diagnosed with cancer, Hugo Chávez has launched a blistering attack on Barack Obama, describing the US president as a "clown" and an "embarrassment".
"Focus on governing your country, which you've turned into a disaster," the Venezuelan president told state TV on Monday. Chávez touched down in the Uruguayan capital, Montevideo, on Tuesday for a summit of Mercosur, South America's leading trade bloc.
Chávez's comments followed a rare and strongly worded interview with Obama published by the Caracas-based El Universal newspaper. The American president criticised Venezuela's business and political links with Iran and Cuba, and raised concerns at what he called threats to the country's democracy.
"We are concerned about the government's actions, which have restricted the universal rights of the Venezuelan people, threatened basic democratic values and failed to contribute to the security in the region," Obama said in the written interview.
"It seems to me that the ties between Venezuela's government and Iran and Cuba have not served the interests of Venezuela and its people."
Referring to Iran, Obama added: "Sooner or later, Venezuela's people will have to decide what possible advantage there is in having relations with a country that violates fundamental human rights and is isolated from most of the world."
Chávez, who travelled to Uruguay to push for full Venezuelan membership of the Mercosur, issued a rebuttal, claiming the interview was motivated by next year's US presidential elections. "Mr Obama decided to attack us," he said. "Now you want to win votes by attacking Venezuela. Don't be irresponsible. You are a clown, a clown. Leave us in peace … Go after your votes by fulfilling that which you promised your people."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/dec/20/hugo-chavez-barack-obama-clown
When's the last time we paid attention to what Hugo Chavez had to say?
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Oh, I don't doubt there were some govt jobs saved or created. I doubt that the stimulus of almost a trillion dollars did what Obama and the Dems said it would do.
By saying things like "it would have been worse", you are blowing smoke. That's something that can't be known because it's an unknown. Did you know that George Bush saved us from an invasion from Mars? Yep. Didn't know that did you.
Well, the CBO actually kept track of these things, and their conclusions are pretty specific. They were able to track the jobs that were created, and had surveys for the business community on jobs that were saved as a direct result of stimulus money.
Again - you need to educate yourself before spewing nonsense like "the stimulus was a total waste."
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Most of the jobs saved or created were for those who support Obama. Solyndra was a good deal, wasn't it. How about MF Global. Outstanding. Smartest guy I know.....says Joe Biden.
How many more Solyndras and BF Globals out there?
You seem to know, since you stated pretty definitively that "most of the jobs saved or created were for those who support Obama."
You suddenly seem to know lots about the jobs that were created....
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Do you ever watch trials and how lawyers operate?
People with agendas will bullshit you every day. I don't have an agenda so I can be perfectly honest and up front. Lefties will tell you half truths, make a mountain out of a mole hill and a mole hill out of a mountain. The left is driven by agenda. Not the right.