I agree with Oliver Stone

[uscitizen]

And why will China stay out of it ?

 

[Cypress]

Bush has at least once said somtthing to the essence of catching OBL does not matter, or is not important. I have never heard the hard against drugs guy talk about the opium problem in Afganistan. Or speak up recently about the resurgence of the Taliban in Afganistan....

Just stay the course in Iraq as he drive the bus over the cliff and calls anyone who bails out "cut and Runners".

LMAO!

 

[uscitizen]

Unfortunately we are all stuck on the bus with "stay the course Bush".

 

[Cypress]

Unfortunately we are all stuck on the bus with "stay the course Bush".

And half the passengers on the bus are wildly cheering bush and egging him on to put the pedal to the metal, as he heads straight for the cliff.

 

[uscitizen]

Yep, People wonder why bush is unable to do any good selling democracy to Iraq.
Now I ask You, would you buy a late model misused democracy off that man ?

 

[AnyOldIron]

9/11 was a provokation by the Islamists, they know that they can only create a Caliphate by provoking the US into attacking Muslims in the hope that this will unite the Muslim world to rise up against the west.

9/11 has been hijacked by the extremists in the US to push their Straussian agenda of perpetual war and attempting to restructure the world according to their politico-economic perspective.

Those stuck in the middle are in a world of cack dealing with idiots both to the left and right....

 

[OrnotBitwise]

9/11 was a provokation by the Islamists, they know that they can only create a Caliphate by provoking the US into attacking Muslims in the hope that this will unite the Muslim world to rise up against the west.

9/11 has been hijacked by the extremists in the US to push their Straussian agenda of perpetual war and attempting to restructure the world according to their politico-economic perspective.

Those stuck in the middle are in a world of cack dealing with idiots both to the left and right....

Which is exactly why it is foolish to characterize efforts to deal with Islamist extremism and terrorism as "war" in any sense. And it's downright stupid to cast it as war against Islam. That's just playing into the hands of the Islamists: the more jingoistic rhetoric coming out of the West they can point to, the more legitimacy they gain among Muslims.

It's not a war. It's a diplomatic and law enforcment problem that may necessitate limited use of military force from time to time.