I just don't get it.

Are you even serious? For one thing, Taking Putin's word that he did not infiltrate our election, when his own security agencies said he did and the Mueller report confirmed it - which he still hasn't addressed, btw.



You fucknuts will just never get it through your heads that we don't care that Hillary lost. I haven't met anyone that's upset about it.



And that is exactly what I was saying about the liberal special interest groups stealing the spotlight and everybody else getting pushed into the background. I might not explain it well but hopefully I do enough for you to understand and you probably do. When the only thing you ever see being focused on is gender and identity equality or somebody's lives matter or any of that kind of stuff, it can make you feel like your voice isn't being hurt when you're not part of one of those groups.

So I get that. What I don't get is the continued support for him. I would understand if those people said yeah screw you, we elected him. That's what you get and left it at that but to keep chanting the stupid slogans, lock her up then what about Hillary and what about Obama, when it's plain to see that he is a destroyer. It kills me That so many people who are being negatively affected by him, continue to support him.

I totally get that people are tired of the liberal BS that is happening in this country. People who exercise traditional values were looking for support. They have been continually lambasted for fighting against abortion, believing in actual free speech (not speech you're expected to speak), working to support those who won't (because they're lazy and don't want to), etc.



And this is where I realize how naive you are. You say "leftist fake news media" and they are definitely slanted to the left, but Fox has been recently discredited as a news source. He has not kept his promises. Where's his Health Care? The tax cuts that put 100's of billions of dollars into the pockets of the rich - which is a permanent tax cut -was barely felt by the middle class - and is NOT a permanent tax cut, so we get to pay for the whole ting in a few years. The tariffs turned out to be a tax increase, basically on ALL Americans. And then you seal your stupidity with the wall statement

meanwhile, dems are fine shipping jobs overseas and importing cheaper labor to drive wages down. trump beat hillary from the left.
 
meanwhile, dems are fine shipping jobs overseas and importing cheaper labor to drive wages down. trump beat hillary from the left.

The Dems are not shifting jobs overseas. The manufacturing was moved by corporations looking for cheaper unprotected labor and no environmental regulation. Trump lost to Hillary in the vote but got the electoral college votes from the boondocks. Here is an example.http://www.jiesworld.com/international_corporations_in_china.htm
 
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The Dems are not shifting jobs overseas. The manufacturing was moved by corporations looking for cheaper unprotected labor and no environmental regulation. Trump lost to Hillary in the vote but got th electoral college votes from the boondocks.

dems are all for it, and act like tariffs and protectionism aren't a thing.
 
Are you even serious? For one thing, Taking Putin's word that he did not infiltrate our election, when his own security agencies said he did and the Mueller report confirmed it - which he still hasn't addressed, btw.

The problem with that is, his own security agencies are the same folks that guaranteed Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and neither they or Mueller ever produced any evidence to the American public about how the Russian infiltrated anything. They say many things hoping they’ll be taken with nothing but confidence in their word as the truth. Apparently Trump hasn’t that much confidence in their alleged truth and neither do I, especially taking note of the scum like Clapper & Brennan.

You fucknuts will just never get it through your heads that we don't care that Hillary lost. I haven't met anyone that's upset about it.

And you have the authority, to speak for, and the magical knowledge to know what whoever “WE” is, is thinking, right? If Y’all ain’t still upset about Hillary losing, y’all are sure as hell pissed that Trump won!!!!!

[/quote]What I don't get is the continued support for him. I would understand if those people said yeah screw you, we elected him. That's what you get and left it at that but to keep chanting the stupid slogans, lock her up then what about Hillary and what about Obama, when it's plain to see that he is a destroyer. It kills me That so many people who are being negatively affected by him, continue to support him.[/quote]

“Destroyer” of what? “So many are being negatively affected by him” how?

And this is where I realize how naive you are. You say "leftist fake news media" and they are definitely slanted to the left, but Fox has been recently discredited as a news source.

Discredited by who?

He has not kept his promises.

Cutting taxes, deregulating the Obama regulatory strangle hold on the economy, renegotiating NAFTA, trade with South Korea, the UK Canada, working on a new trade deal with China, pulling out of the idiot Paris Agreement and the unconstitutional Iranian treaty, Doing all he can to protect our souther border, increasing the military budget, (which I oppose), shaming the NATO members into paying up their fair share of NATO dues. He’s accomplished more in little more than 2 years than Obama did in 8 years and he’d be doing more if the voting morons hadn’t handed the House back to the Democrats to spend the next two years trying to pin a crime on him and impeach him.

Where's his Health Care?



I don’t care about the feds doing healthcare. There’s no constitutional authority for the federal government to be involved in healthcare, Amendment 10 makes healthcare the authority of the States and the people.

The tax cuts that put 100's of billions of dollars into the pockets of the rich - which is a permanent tax cut -was barely felt by the middle class - and is NOT a permanent tax cut, so we get to pay for the whole ting in a few years.

Nobody ever got a job from a poor person. Leftist eternal bitching about “tax cuts for the wealthy” is just about the most boring tired horseshit in all of the political world. Rich folks are the “INVESTORS,” the business starters and business expanders, the job makers and the economy builders. I don’t know about you, but I got a tax cut and that’s more than I ever got from Obama.

The tariffs turned out to be a tax increase, basically on ALL Americans. And then you seal your stupidity with the wall statement

The tariffs are designed to force a fairer trade deal. While that may place some discomfort on Americans, I believe they’re putting more discomfort on the Chinese and they sure as hell need us more than we need them. My hat goes off to Trump for having the guts to take on the Chinese and squeeze their sorry asses into cutting a fair deal for America. They’re stealing our intellectual material inventions, devaluing their money, and have drastic tariffs on American products and causing an ungodly unbalance of trade with us.

Regardless of what CNN & MSNBC is telling you there’s a disaster going on at our southern border, all caused by our idiotic immigration policy that the Congress refuses to fix. Until Congress does their duty and legislates a credible sensible immigration law, and provide for a border wall where it’s needed, I’ll support Trump shutting down the border to force Mexico to stop the caravans of illegal immigrants forcing their way into America. I support Trumps moving of military construction funds to pay for building the wall where it’s necessary.
 
I won't list all of the negatives that surround Trump, but I could, and it would take all night to write it out, so I'll keep it short and profound, but I keep wondering why do people support him?

He lies on a scale we've never seen in Politics and that's saying something. That's not debatable, it's not rhetoric and it's not over-dramatized.

One of his main goals as president is to overturn the ACA which will throw millions of people off of the Insurance rolls and will increase prescription, health visit costs, et al for people over 65 on Medicare. This will also return to poor people using the emergency room for regular Dr visits and the people who have insurance facing even steeper premiums to cover the costs, Which is odd since the Republicans took a beating in the Mid-terms primarily in the issue of Health Care and Insurance. I know people who will be directly and negatively affected by this, but still support him.

He shows more allegiance to our enemies than our allies and our own citizens.

No matter how I look at it, I can only come up with 5 reasons why people support him.

1, they're star struck, Seeing a celebrity who has flaunted a life of privilege appeals to them on a scale that they're willing to ignore his negatives.

2, they're racists who buy into the Muslim ban, the wall on the Mexican border and the rhetoric about police being rough when arresting gang members.

3, they're so angry about 8 years of Obama, they'll support him in the face of anything, including the things I listed above, just to spite the Democrats.

4, they're offended by the people who identify as LGBQT and the off-shoot groups of NB, GQ, GF, et all who primarily align with the left and have taken the spotlight, leaving these Trump people disregarded by today's culture.*

Just a note, I have issues with those off-shoot groups, but not enough to turn my back on my country.

5, they actually believe everything he says. Which is terrifying

Or......get ready.....or, perhaps the people that support Mr. Trump simply want to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. Perhaps they are tired of politics as usual where the elite that have never had dirt under the nails attempt to dictate policy in a republic where trust is constructed upon "representation" not "dictation". Perhaps they are tired of hearing how someone is going to "fundamentally change" the Untied States from a representative republic into a social democracy that does not respect the individuals rights of freedom, liberty and property ownership.

Perhaps its like the old axiom declares...……..


"Cherish those who seek the truth...…..but beware those who actually find it." That truth? The United States was founded upon the principles of a Judeo/Christian philosophy and the majority of its citizens do not want nor seek SOCIALISM....the left wing scurge of the 20th century that murdered over 100 million men women and children supposedly while in the quest for SOCIAL JUSTICE.

In other words....the answer you are seeking is not that difficult. Its simply a matter of right v. wrong, good v. evil...…..with the obvious being those who sit on the left hand of God being evil as per your supposed list of intolerances. Who wants to be tolerant of EVIL? :bigthink:

"All it takes for evil to find success is for good men to do nothing...…….."

You demand "US" to sit on our asses while you carry out your re-design of the United States of America? FAT CHANCE.
 
I won't list all of the negatives that surround Trump, but I could, and it would take all night to write it out, so I'll keep it short and profound, but I keep wondering why do people support him?

He lies on a scale we've never seen in Politics and that's saying something. That's not debatable, it's not rhetoric and it's not over-dramatized.

One of his main goals as president is to overturn the ACA which will throw millions of people off of the Insurance rolls and will increase prescription, health visit costs, et al for people over 65 on Medicare. This will also return to poor people using the emergency room for regular Dr visits and the people who have insurance facing even steeper premiums to cover the costs, Which is odd since the Republicans took a beating in the Mid-terms primarily in the issue of Health Care and Insurance. I know people who will be directly and negatively affected by this, but still support him.

He shows more allegiance to our enemies than our allies and our own citizens.

No matter how I look at it, I can only come up with 5 reasons why people support him.

1, they're star struck, Seeing a celebrity who has flaunted a life of privilege appeals to them on a scale that they're willing to ignore his negatives.

2, they're racists who buy into the Muslim ban, the wall on the Mexican border and the rhetoric about police being rough when arresting gang members.

3, they're so angry about 8 years of Obama, they'll support him in the face of anything, including the things I listed above, just to spite the Democrats.

4, they're offended by the people who identify as LGBQT and the off-shoot groups of NB, GQ, GF, et all who primarily align with the left and have taken the spotlight, leaving these Trump people disregarded by today's culture.*

Just a note, I have issues with those off-shoot groups, but not enough to turn my back on my country.

5, they actually believe everything he says. Which is terrifying

Here's two that you failed to consider.

6. He made promises (and unlike most politicians, has kept them).
7. He has the balls to stand up to the Deep State.
 
dems are all for it, and act like tariffs and protectionism aren't a thing.

Exactly what qualifies a deep state Trumpian righty to speak for the Dems? Let me help you..NOTHING?. Trump will not shut down the border, but if he did, it would blow up in his orange face. Tariffs are Trump's idea and it is a dumb one. This time, I doubt if Repubs will jump on that bandwagon. You, probably would. But Trumps economic antics are already hurting many of his voters.
 
Yeah a woman lawyer who was a senator and a Secretary of State. And Trump a low level con man who spend daddys money. I had no truouble making that decision.I would pick her over that idiot anytime.

I love it.......this is why Trump will be re-elected.......
 
Exactly what qualifies a deep state Trumpian righty to speak for the Dems? Let me help you..NOTHING?. Trump will not shut down the border, but if he did, it would blow up in his orange face. Tariffs are Trump's idea and it is a dumb one. This time, I doubt if Repubs will jump on that bandwagon. You, probably would. But Trumps economic antics are already hurting many of his voters.

do you really think trump invented tariffs?

what a dumbfuck.
 
The problem with that is, his own security agencies are the same folks that guaranteed Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and neither they or Mueller ever produced any evidence to the American public about how the Russian infiltrated anything. They say many things hoping they’ll be taken with nothing but confidence in their word as the truth. Apparently Trump hasn’t that much confidence in their alleged truth and neither do I, especially taking note of the scum like Clapper & Brennan.

Wow, just wow..... There is so much tun foil hat material in this one paragraph, it's mind boggling. You just basically said that you don't trust the US Security agencies to do their jobs, something all of those people are highly trained to do, protect the country, but instead take the word of a fucking nudnick that has ZERO training in national security?? Do you realize how stupid

And you have the authority, to speak for, and the magical knowledge to know what whoever “WE” is, is thinking, right? If Y’all ain’t still upset about Hillary losing, y’all are sure as hell pissed that Trump won!!!!!

Have you seen one person on here that's a regular poster in this section show any support for Hillary? I'll answer for you - no, you haven't

Discredited by who?

[url-https://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=27363]Fox News CEO Admits That The Network Is Not In The News Business[/url]

Cutting taxes, deregulating the Obama regulatory strangle hold on the economy, renegotiating NAFTA, trade with South Korea, the UK Canada, working on a new trade deal with China, pulling out of the idiot Paris Agreement and the unconstitutional Iranian treaty, Doing all he can to protect our souther border, increasing the military budget, (which I oppose), shaming the NATO members into paying up their fair share of NATO dues. He’s accomplished more in little more than 2 years than Obama did in 8 years and he’d be doing more if the voting morons hadn’t handed the House back to the Democrats to spend the next two years trying to pin a crime on him and impeach him.

Obama stranglehold on the economy???? Did you fucking FORGET what the economy was like in 2009?? Under Obama there were 75 straight months of job growth, unemployment was but by m ore than half of what it was, wages rose by 2.9%, the S&P 500 returned by 235%. So that was just another in a long line of uneducated, stupid comments you make.

The tax cuts put 100's of billions of dollars into the pockets of the richest people, who never have to worry about those cuts expiring, until someone with some fucking sense overrides that stupid clause, and yet they did almost nothing for the middle class, who get to pay for the whole tax cut package in 2 years - which includes you, moron. And he lost the house because those Democrats ran on HEALTH CARE, you fucknut, not the investigation.

The tariffs are designed to force a fairer trade deal. While that may place some discomfort on Americans, I believe they’re putting more discomfort on the Chinese and they sure as hell need us more than we need them. My hat goes off to Trump for having the guts to take on the Chinese and squeeze their sorry asses into cutting a fair deal for America. They’re stealing our intellectual material inventions, devaluing their money, and have drastic tariffs on American products and causing an ungodly unbalance of trade with us.

Except they aren't putting shit on the Chinese, BUT Americans are paying more for products, Farmers lost their asses in soybeans this year and Aluminum fabricators are going out of business. Turn the Fake fucking Fox News off and go do some actual research. Maybe - I doubt it because you're retarded - but just maybe you might learn something

Regardless of what CNN & MSNBC is telling you there’s a disaster going on at our southern border, all caused by our idiotic immigration policy that the Congress refuses to fix. Until Congress does their duty and legislates a credible sensible immigration law, and provide for a border wall where it’s needed, I’ll support Trump shutting down the border to force Mexico to stop the caravans of illegal immigrants forcing their way into America. I support Trumps moving of military construction funds to pay for building the wall where it’s necessary.

Except there isn't. See what people in Texas are saying about the border. Crossings down 96% since 2000. And shutting down the border means goodbye to produce since 80% of ALL our produce comes from Mexico, dumb ass
 
I won't list all of the negatives that surround Trump, but I could, and it would take all night to write it out, so I'll keep it short and profound, but I keep wondering why do people support him?

He lies on a scale we've never seen in Politics and that's saying something. That's not debatable, it's not rhetoric and it's not over-dramatized.

One of his main goals as president is to overturn the ACA which will throw millions of people off of the Insurance rolls and will increase prescription, health visit costs, et al for people over 65 on Medicare. This will also return to poor people using the emergency room for regular Dr visits and the people who have insurance facing even steeper premiums to cover the costs, Which is odd since the Republicans took a beating in the Mid-terms primarily in the issue of Health Care and Insurance. I know people who will be directly and negatively affected by this, but still support him.

He shows more allegiance to our enemies than our allies and our own citizens.

No matter how I look at it, I can only come up with 5 reasons why people support him.

1, they're star struck, Seeing a celebrity who has flaunted a life of privilege appeals to them on a scale that they're willing to ignore his negatives.

2, they're racists who buy into the Muslim ban, the wall on the Mexican border and the rhetoric about police being rough when arresting gang members.

3, they're so angry about 8 years of Obama, they'll support him in the face of anything, including the things I listed above, just to spite the Democrats.

4, they're offended by the people who identify as LGBQT and the off-shoot groups of NB, GQ, GF, et all who primarily align with the left and have taken the spotlight, leaving these Trump people disregarded by today's culture.*

Just a note, I have issues with those off-shoot groups, but not enough to turn my back on my country.

5, they actually believe everything he says. Which is terrifying

Trump was not my first choice during the primaries.
During the general election I difinitely was not voting for Hillary.

I hate Trumps demeanor but I’m in agreement with some of his policies.

ACA was a problem from the start, it was forced down the public’s throat. There were false statements from the Obama administration regarding holding down costs and ability to keep doctors and mandated fees.

All the politicians are liars.

Why do you hate Trump so much. What Trump decision has negatively effected you directly.
 
Trump was not my first choice during the primaries.
During the general election I difinitely was not voting for Hillary.

I hate Trumps demeanor but I’m in agreement with some of his policies.

ACA was a problem from the start, it was forced down the public’s throat. There were false statements from the Obama administration regarding holding down costs and ability to keep doctors and mandated fees.

All the politicians are liars.

Why do you hate Trump so much. What Trump decision has negatively effected you directly.

so you dislike a confident man with a sack? if you weren't so cucky you could recognize male power.
 
Wow, just wow..... There is so much tun foil hat material in this one paragraph, it's mind boggling. You just basically said that you don't trust the US Security agencies to do their jobs, something all of those people are highly trained to do, protect the country, but instead take the word of a fucking nudnick that has ZERO training in national security?? Do you realize how stupid.

I also have ZERO training in national security, that in no way makes me naive and self-ignorant.

Keeping up with world affaires for my 83 years, has taught me to rely the least on politicians and non-elected bureaucrats So, I’ll remind you that our Central Intelligence Agency, in the past, along with British Intel, deposed a duly elected leader of Iran and installed the Shah Of Iran to replace him, simply because he was feared to be sympathetic to communism, no more than today’s America’s leftist Democrats. I’ll also remind you that “The coming to power in Iraq by Saddam Hussein and the Ba’ath Party in Iraq were facilitated by a major effort of America’s CIA, I’ll remind you again that America’s Intelligence agencies also guaranteed to President G.W. Bush and the world that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. I’ll also remind you those same folk who claim the Russians hacked America’s 2016 Presidential election, never explained how and why they know that nor produced any other kind of evidence therewith. The gullible are supposed to take their word for it as gospel truth. I’ll also remind you those same people brag that they, (America’s intelligence agencies), are the best in the world at hacking other nations elections and political secrets. I’ll remind you of Ruby Ridge and Waco and you can investigate those for yourself and decide the reliability, honesty and integrity of Americas most POWERFUL NON-ELECTED 4th branch of America’s federal government.

I’d council every American to take what they say with a grain of salt and I find it not curious nor treasonous to mistrust them.
 
Have you seen one person on here that's a regular poster in this section show any support for Hillary? I'll answer for you - no, you haven't

Then every lefty here agrees that Hillary Clinton is an incompetent lying bitch guilty of hanging an American diplomat and 3 other American’s asses out to dry and be murdered in Benghazi by the same rebels she armed in Libya? Y’all agree that Hillary is a felonious sneaky creepy bitch that communicated America’s classified and even secret materials on a private hidden illegal email server in her bathroom and allowed her uncleared aids access to same? Y’all agree that Hillary paid for a false dossier to trash Donald Trump and she was and has been a part of the Obama’s DOJ & FBI Coup-de-qua to frame Donald J. Trump, America’s duly elected President and impeach him and remove him from office, right? You’ve seen the light, correct?
 
Obama stranglehold on the economy???? Did you fucking FORGET what the economy was like in 2009?? Under Obama there were 75 straight months of job growth, unemployment was but by m ore than half of what it was, wages rose by 2.9%, the S&P 500 returned by 235%. So that was just another in a long line of uneducated, stupid comments you make.

First I’ll remind you that 6 of Obama’s 8 years in office he had a Republican controlled Congress. Congress authorizes and appropriates by law every dime from the U.S. Treasury and thereby has the vast majority of control over the economy. Thus I’ll ask you how much credit do you give the Obama Republican controlled Congress for the Obama Economy? And on the same note, how much credit do you allot to the Trump Republican controlled Congress his first 2 years?

Then there’s this https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/boom-trump-vs-obama-brilliantly-compared-on-the-economy
 
The tax cuts put 100's of billions of dollars into the pockets of the richest people, who never have to worry about those cuts expiring, until someone with some fucking sense overrides that stupid clause, and yet they did almost nothing for the middle class, who get to pay for the whole tax cut package in 2 years - which includes you, moron. And he lost the house because those Democrats ran on HEALTH CARE, you fucknut, not the investigation.

Again, I’ll ask you how many jobs did you ever get from a poor person?

I don’t mind that the monied folks get the BIGGEST tax cuts, they pay the most taxes and they provide the most jobs and invest the most money in the economy. I supported the Corporate tax cuts. They make America’s smaller corporations competitive again and have a better competitive opportunity for competing with the BIGGER corporations that can and do operate from foreign countries because they had the loot to transfer their operations.

Again I’ll remind you there’s “NO” constitutional authority for the feds to create and operate any kind of healthcare and or healthcare insurance program. That power and authority belongs to the States and the people, see amendment 10 to our Constitution!!!!!
 
Except they aren't putting shit on the Chinese, BUT Americans are paying more for products, Farmers lost their asses in soybeans this year and Aluminum fabricators are going out of business. Turn the Fake fucking Fox News off and go do some actual research. Maybe - I doubt it because you're retarded - but just maybe you might learn something

Tariffs have consequences and some pain. Again I’ll remind you that the Chinese need America more than America needs the Chinese. I’m perfectly willing to let the tariffs take their toll and produce their results. I give Trump Kudos for having the gonads to take on the Chinese, it’s long past due!!!!!
 
Except there isn't. See what people in Texas are saying about the border. Crossings down 96% since 2000. And shutting down the border means goodbye to produce since 80% of ALL our produce comes from Mexico, dumb ass

Texas archbishop: The border 'emergency' is not what you think
www.catholicnewsagency.com › News › US
He said there is a “border security and humanitarian crisis” there, claiming that the border is a major entry point for criminals, gang members, and illegal drugs.

Humanitarian Crisis At The Southern Border Builds, Border ...
www.npr.org/2019/03/05/700289827
Humanitarian Crisis At The Southern Border Builds, Border Patrol Says Agents apprehended some 60,000 people last month — about 12,000 more immigrants than they picked up in January. The majority ...

Humanitarian and Security Crisis at Southern Border Reaches ...
www.dhs.gov › News › Press Releases
Humanitarian and Security Crisis at Southern Border Reaches 'Breaking Point' ... More than 2,000 aliens are being apprehended every day at the Southern border.

'You Can See the Photos,' This Is a Crisis: Pavlich on CBP ...
insider.foxnews.com/2019/03/28/katie-pavlich...
Katie Pavlich said photos of hundreds of migrants being held under a bridge in El Paso, Texas, underscore the humanitarian crisis at the southern border.
 
Hello WalterWilson,

I won't list all of the negatives that surround Trump, but I could, and it would take all night to write it out, so I'll keep it short and profound, but I keep wondering why do people support him?

He lies on a scale we've never seen in Politics and that's saying something. That's not debatable, it's not rhetoric and it's not over-dramatized.

One of his main goals as president is to overturn the ACA which will throw millions of people off of the Insurance rolls and will increase prescription, health visit costs, et al for people over 65 on Medicare. This will also return to poor people using the emergency room for regular Dr visits and the people who have insurance facing even steeper premiums to cover the costs, Which is odd since the Republicans took a beating in the Mid-terms primarily in the issue of Health Care and Insurance. I know people who will be directly and negatively affected by this, but still support him.

He shows more allegiance to our enemies than our allies and our own citizens.

No matter how I look at it, I can only come up with 5 reasons why people support him.

1, they're star struck, Seeing a celebrity who has flaunted a life of privilege appeals to them on a scale that they're willing to ignore his negatives.

2, they're racists who buy into the Muslim ban, the wall on the Mexican border and the rhetoric about police being rough when arresting gang members.

3, they're so angry about 8 years of Obama, they'll support him in the face of anything, including the things I listed above, just to spite the Democrats.

4, they're offended by the people who identify as LGBQT and the off-shoot groups of NB, GQ, GF, et all who primarily align with the left and have taken the spotlight, leaving these Trump people disregarded by today's culture.*

Just a note, I have issues with those off-shoot groups, but not enough to turn my back on my country.

5, they actually believe everything he says. Which is terrifying

Sounds like you get it pretty well.

Thanks for voicing your view.

I agree.
 
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