I just realized... It's been more than a year since Epstein didn't kill himself!

Jarod said:
Do you believe Pam Bondi? I actually do. But I think she was lying when she said the client list was on her desk.
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I don't. I think there were a lot of rich and powerful clients on that list. If they revealed only those on the Left, then those on the Left would reveal all of those on the Right who were raping girls right next to them. It was a lose-lose move to investigate.
 
Jarod said:
Do you believe Pam Bondi? I actually do. But I think she was lying when she said the client list was on her desk.
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I think there were documents on her desk, I think she just found out that the records were not as damning as folks originally believed. There are folks out there that truly believe that he had a "blackmail list" where he had names and crimes associated with them on a list.... I do not think so.

Think of it this way. Having your name on a business meeting note on Al Capone's calendar would not mean you were in the mob, people met with him that never committed crimes. Simply saying you've taken a plane, for instance, would not be evidence of a crime... so not a "list" and the documents are simply not "evidence" the way folks think they are.
 
Damocles said:
I think there were documents on her desk, I think she just found out that the records were not as damning as folks originally believed. There are folks out there that truly believe that he had a "blackmail list" where he had names and crimes associated with them on a list....
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I agree with you. But I am laughing at all the Republicans who went on and on, that Democrats wont release the list because they are on it.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
I don't. I think there were a lot of rich and powerful clients on that list. If they revealed only those on the Left, then those on the Left would reveal all of those on the Right who were raping girls right next to them. It was a lose-lose move to investigate.
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I suspect there is some serious evidence against powerful individuals. Its not on a list, its buried in the documents, and would take some piecing together.

I suspect TACO is in there.
 
Jarod said:
I agree with you. But I am laughing at all the Republicans who went on and on, that Democrats wont release the list because they are on it.
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Are you laughing at the Democrats who are assuming that it is because Trump is on the list? I mean...
 
Damocles said:
Are you laughing at the Democrats who are assuming that it is because Trump is on the list? I mean...
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I would laugh at any Democrat who went on and on (especially in a campaign) referring to a "list" that their "opponent" or her husband was surely on, but will not be made public.

Well I suspect TACO is in the information more than he would like, but he is not on any list. Why does she not just publish what was on her desk?

I have accused TACO of being on the list, but in jest, mocking the way they acted relating to Hillary and Bill Clinton. But IN reality, I believe there are large volumes of documents that would implicate a lot of Democrats and Republicans in this mess, I wish they would publish it all.
 
Damocles said:
I think there were documents on her desk
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That's fair enough of a "read" on it. NOT what she said but a reasonable post hoc justification as needed.

Damocles said:
, I think she just found out that the records were not as damning as folks originally believed.
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This is the part no one is going to believe. After years of being told that there was a "there" there and that the papers would be "released" only for them to play games with that now this?

C'mon, man, at the very least there are flight manifests which have to be registered with the aviation authorities, aren't there?

This is just nakedly a case of "Oops, Trump showed up in the files in an incriminating way, let's hide it".

You would have to be naive enough to be a Trump University graduate to think there's "nothing" damning in any of the Epstein files for DJT. He's KNOWN to be good friends with JE.

And Trump has a "record" of not particularly behaving appropriately when it comes to carnal relations. Whether it's an sexual assault on a woman at Bergdorfs or walking into the Miss Teen USA dressing rooms....Trump has some "issues" with the guardrails around sexual relations.


Damocles said:
Think of it this way. Having your name on a business meeting note on Al Capone's calendar would not mean you were in the mob, people met with him that never committed crimes. Simply saying you've taken a plane, for instance, would not be evidence of a crime... so not a "list" and the documents are simply not "evidence" the way folks think they are.
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OK. But for the party that chanted "LOCK HER UP" for YEARS without EVER finding anything they could charge her with, I'm surprised at how "fair and balanced" the Right is about THIS.
 
Jarod said:
I would laugh at any Democrat who went on and on (especially in a campaign) referring to a "list" that their "opponent" or her husband was surely on, but will not be made public.

Well I suspect TACO is in the information more than he would like, but he is not on any list. Why does she not just publish what was on her desk?

I have accused TACO of being on the list, but in jest, mocking the way they acted relating to Hillary and Bill Clinton. But IN reality, I believe there are large volumes of documents that would implicate a lot of Democrats and Republicans in this mess, I wish they would publish it all.
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Why didn't they publish it when the Dems were in charge? I think that it is likely the same reason now.
 
gmark77 said:
That's fair enough of a "read" on it. NOT what she said but a reasonable post hoc justification as needed.



This is the part no one is going to believe. After years of being told that there was a "there" there and that the papers would be "released" only for them to play games with that now this?

C'mon, man, at the very least there are flight manifests which have to be registered with the aviation authorities, aren't there?

This is just nakedly a case of "Oops, Trump showed up in the files in an incriminating way, let's hide it".

You would have to be naive enough to be a Trump University graduate to think there's "nothing" damning in any of the Epstein files for DJT. He's KNOWN to be good friends with JE.

And Trump has a "record" of not particularly behaving appropriately when it comes to carnal relations. Whether it's an sexual assault on a woman at Bergdorfs or walking into the Miss Teen USA dressing rooms....Trump has some "issues" with the guardrails around sexual relations.




OK. But for the party that chanted "LOCK HER UP" for YEARS without EVER finding anything they could charge her with, I'm surprised at how "fair and balanced" the Right is about THIS.
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"Lock her up" - you made my day by reminding me of that chant. Why cant people look at the past and see that people are doing that same stupid shit in the present.
 
Damocles said:
I think there were documents on her desk, I think she just found out that the records were not as damning as folks originally believed. There are folks out there that truly believe that he had a "blackmail list" where he had names and crimes associated with them on a list.... I do not think so.

Think of it this way. Having your name on a business meeting note on Al Capone's calendar would not mean you were in the mob, people met with him that never committed crimes. Simply saying you've taken a plane, for instance, would not be evidence of a crime... so not a "list" and the documents are simply not "evidence" the way folks think they are.
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She told Fox News last February that she had the list on her desk. Why do you think so many MAGAts in Congress want her to be canned over this?

www.foxnews.com

Bondi says Epstein client list 'sitting on my desk right now,' and is reviewing JFK, MLK files

U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi told 'America Reports' host John Roberts that she is reviewing the Jeffrey Epstein list, which is "sitting on my desk right now," along with the JFK and MLK files.
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Far-right activist Laura Loomer, who has demonstrated influence with the Trump administration and has frequently criticized Bondi over her handling of the Epstein investigation, called for Trump to fire his attorney general.

“If she doesn’t get fired over this Epstein memo, people are going to be so black pilled,” Loomer wrote on X, using a term that some on the far-right use to signify a belief that the system is beyond repair.
 
Jarod said:
I suspect there is some serious evidence against powerful individuals. Its not on a list, its buried in the documents, and would take some piecing together.

I suspect TACO is in there.
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Agreed on all of the above. Furthermore, I believe Trump had business dealings with both Jeffrey and Ghislaine.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
I don't. I think there were a lot of rich and powerful clients on that list. If they revealed only those on the Left, then those on the Left would reveal all of those on the Right who were raping girls right next to them. It was a lose-lose move to investigate.
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Bondi wasn't thinking that far ahead when she said the list was on her desk.
 
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