I may do it, I may not, Part II
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gfm7175
Mega MAGA
What "wishy washy" commitment to NATO?
If NATO doesn't wish to behave, then I'm perfectly fine with Daddy Trump either whipping them into shape or walking away.
The latter would certainly appease his bro Vladimir
gfm7175
Mega MAGA
Why do you HATE Russia so much?
Into the Night
Verified User
Of course, Trump is also hated by millions.
One thing you can say about Trump, he's no milktoast! Loved by millions or hated by millions, very few stand on the fence with this guy!
Into the Night
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MAGA isn't a person, Sybil.A post you never made to any JPP MAGAts.
Into the Night
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Good question. By NOT paying their fair share, they are in violation of the NATO treaty. We'll see if Trump can arrange a deal here.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
Random words. No apparent coherency.
Into the Night
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It isn't, anchovies. Trump's position with NATO is crystal clear and consistent.
Into the Night
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I cleaned it up for you a bit:
...as required by treaty?
...and continue to ignore the NATO treaty?
Into the Night
Verified User
None. Trump is the President of the United States and has all the power and authority of that office as defined by Article II of the Constitution of the United States.
What "plan"????
Scott
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“Trump says whether he’ll commit to NATO mutual defense guarantee ‘Depends on your definition”
“WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump on Tuesday injected some uncertainty over whether the U.S. would abide by the mutual defense guarantees outlined in the NATO treaty as he headed to its summit — comments that could revive longstanding concern from European allies about his commitment to the military alliance.”
“Depends on your definition,” Trump told reporters on Tuesday as he was headed to The Hague”
Trump says whether he'll commit to NATO mutual defense guarantee 'Depends on your definition'
President Donald Trump has received a private message from NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte praising him for driving NATO “to a really, really important moment for America and Europe, and the world.”apnews.com
Must be he don’t want to let all those allies know his battle plans
Most likely he hasn’t a clue what he is going to do, probably didn’t even know the meeting was scheduled and who was attending.
Interesting to see if he again shoves his way to make sure he is front and center of the group photo
I suspect Trump doesn't want to get roped into fighting Russia more than the U.S. already is for stupid reasons. If that's the case, kudos to him.
Scott
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“Trump says whether he’ll commit to NATO mutual defense guarantee ‘Depends on your definition”
“WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump on Tuesday injected some uncertainty over whether the U.S. would abide by the mutual defense guarantees outlined in the NATO treaty as he headed to its summit — comments that could revive longstanding concern from European allies about his commitment to the military alliance.”
“Depends on your definition,” Trump told reporters on Tuesday as he was headed to The Hague”
Trump says whether he'll commit to NATO mutual defense guarantee 'Depends on your definition'
President Donald Trump has received a private message from NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte praising him for driving NATO “to a really, really important moment for America and Europe, and the world.”
Must be he don’t want to let all those allies know his battle plans
Most likely he hasn’t a clue what he is going to do, probably didn’t even know the meeting was scheduled and who was attending.
Interesting to see if he again shoves his way to make sure he is front and center of the group photo
I now see that there's a youtuber named Sebastian Sas, who I've come to admire, who basically believes what I suspect concerning Trump's reason for being nuanced here. Quoting from a youtube video he just released a few hours ago:
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Rutte Congratulates Trump
Trump cast doubt on Article 5 commitment on route to NATO summit.
Asked whether the United States remains committed to NATO's Article 5
clause, Trump told reporters on Air Force One, "Depends
on your definition. There are numerous definitions of Article 5.
You know that, right? But I'm committed to being their friends." Trump
is totally correct on this one, because NATO's Article 5 is
not as clear-cut as certain people make it sound. NATO's Article 5
is not a blank check for NATO member states to go and do whatever they
want regarding Russia, to keep poking the bear. That's
not how Article 5 works. Article 5 is meant to protect NATO
member states in the event of an attack. But if you poke the bear, and in
the end you take one step too far and then the bear fights
back, the NATO alliance doesn't have to protect you, because you've been
irresponsible. That's what Trump is alluding to. And he's
probably gonna say it openly to the people in the Hague at the NATO summit.
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Source:
“Trump says whether he’ll commit to NATO mutual defense guarantee ‘Depends on your definition”
“WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump on Tuesday injected some uncertainty over whether the U.S. would abide by the mutual defense guarantees outlined in the NATO treaty as he headed to its summit — comments that could revive longstanding concern from European allies about his commitment to the military alliance.”
“Depends on your definition,” Trump told reporters on Tuesday as he was headed to The Hague”
Trump says whether he'll commit to NATO mutual defense guarantee 'Depends on your definition'
President Donald Trump has received a private message from NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte praising him for driving NATO “to a really, really important moment for America and Europe, and the world.”
Must be he don’t want to let all those allies know his battle plans
Most likely he hasn’t a clue what he is going to do, probably didn’t even know the meeting was scheduled and who was attending.
Interesting to see if he again shoves his way to make sure he is front and center of the group photo
A copy of message from NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte, sent to Trump before the summit began:“Trump says whether he’ll commit to NATO mutual defense guarantee ‘Depends on your definition”
“WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump on Tuesday injected some uncertainty over whether the U.S. would abide by the mutual defense guarantees outlined in the NATO treaty as he headed to its summit — comments that could revive longstanding concern from European allies about his commitment to the military alliance.”
“Depends on your definition,” Trump told reporters on Tuesday as he was headed to The Hague”
Trump says whether he'll commit to NATO mutual defense guarantee 'Depends on your definition'
President Donald Trump has received a private message from NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte praising him for driving NATO “to a really, really important moment for America and Europe, and the world.”
Must be he don’t want to let all those allies know his battle plans
Most likely he hasn’t a clue what he is going to do, probably didn’t even know the meeting was scheduled and who was attending.
Interesting to see if he again shoves his way to make sure he is front and center of the group photo
The U.S. president, while en route, published a screenshot of a private message from Rutte saying: “Donald, you have driven us to a really, really important moment for America and Europe and the world. You will achieve something NO American president in decades could get done.”
NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte arrives ahead of a formal dinner at the Paleis Huis ten Bosch ahead of the NATO summit in The Hague, Netherlands, Tuesday, June 24, 2025. (AP Photo/Markus Schreiber)
“Europe is going to pay in a BIG way, as they should, and it will be your win,” Rutte wrote. NATO confirmed that he sent the message.
Rutte appeared unconcerned that Trump aired it, telling reporters: “I have absolutely no trouble or problem with that because there’s nothing in it which had to stay secret.”
And Kamala is GOING TO WIN IN A LANDSLIDE!Bad news for you, sorry trumptard fuck:
Donald Trump's approval rating plunges in multiple polls
Recent polls showed considerable dips of Trump's net approval rating on the backdrop of the Iran-Israel conflict.www.newsweek.com
Donald J Trump....WINNER in not one, not two, not three,...... but......EVERY SINGLE Swing state!
And here I thought all along the plan was to not have him win like he did at all
You know what they say about the BEST LAID PLANS.......
I guess the Utopian chinks are so smart afterall....I mean, of course they aren't,...or they wouldn't be chinks!
gfm7175
Mega MAGA
Thanks! Much appreciated!
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
Rutte knows that flattery will get you everywhere with Trump. Greasing Trump's palm doesn't hurt either.A copy of message from NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte, sent to Trump before the summit began:
The U.S. president, while en route, published a screenshot of a private message from Rutte saying: “Donald, you have driven us to a really, really important moment for America and Europe and the world. You will achieve something NO American president in decades could get done.”
NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte arrives ahead of a formal dinner at the Paleis Huis ten Bosch ahead of the NATO summit in The Hague, Netherlands, Tuesday, June 24, 2025. (AP Photo/Markus Schreiber)
“Europe is going to pay in a BIG way, as they should, and it will be your win,” Rutte wrote. NATO confirmed that he sent the message.
Rutte appeared unconcerned that Trump aired it, telling reporters: “I have absolutely no trouble or problem with that because there’s nothing in it which had to stay secret.”
Of course, world leaders, and anyone in Trump’s cabinet, learned from Zelensky, if you want something from Trump, just kiss his ass, massage his ego, you got acknowledge his narcissismA copy of message from NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte, sent to Trump before the summit began:
The U.S. president, while en route, published a screenshot of a private message from Rutte saying: “Donald, you have driven us to a really, really important moment for America and Europe and the world. You will achieve something NO American president in decades could get done.”
NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte arrives ahead of a formal dinner at the Paleis Huis ten Bosch ahead of the NATO summit in The Hague, Netherlands, Tuesday, June 24, 2025. (AP Photo/Markus Schreiber)
“Europe is going to pay in a BIG way, as they should, and it will be your win,” Rutte wrote. NATO confirmed that he sent the message.
Rutte appeared unconcerned that Trump aired it, telling reporters: “I have absolutely no trouble or problem with that because there’s nothing in it which had to stay secret.”