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Watermark said:
Hey, Bush got into Yale. But he was rich as hell, too.
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Bush got into two Yale for two reasons. Both his father and his grandfather went there. Legacies get into to college REGARDLESS of their scores and grades. No other C level highschool student with middling SAT's could have gotten in to Yale without being a legacy. I have always said that all things being equal, if GWB was George Walker Smith he would have been lucky to get into to San Jacinto College in Houston.
 
Socrtease said:
Bush got into two Yale for two reasons. Both his father and his grandfather went there. Legacies get into to college REGARDLESS of their scores and grades. No other C level highschool student with middling SAT's could have gotten in to Yale without being a legacy. I have always said that all things being equal, if GWB was George Walker Smith he would have been lucky to get into to San Jacinto College in Houston.
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And Kerry, who actually had worse grades at Yale? What were his test scores and was he a legacy?
 
Thorn said:
Loyola is/was a Jesuit college; there's one in Chicago. I don't know if others exist around the country. You could do a search. I don't know how serious Trog's comment was, though; I don't know much more about the school.
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Loyola College in Maryland, Baltimore, Maryland
Loyola Marymount University, Los Angeles, California
Loyola University, Chicago, Illinois
Loyola University New Orleans, New Orleans, Louisiana

Those are the four biggest I think
 
Damocles said:
And Kerry, who actually had worse grades at Yale? What were his test scores and was he a legacy?
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No Idea. But I bet he was a legacy on his mom's side. She was a Forbes and I think that family had a Yale background. But I think a more important comparison to Bush as far as success and whether it was earned or granted at birth is William Jefferson Clinton. Born to a poor woman in Arkansas, and went to school at Harvard without being a legacy. Bush has NEVER earned a position in his entire life. Without being George Herbert Walker Bush's son he would have been lucky to be a mid level oilfield manager in Midland Texas. And his failure to grasp the basics has shown through, especially in foreign policy for the last 7 years.
 
Socrtease said:
No Idea. But I bet he was a legacy on his mom's side. She was a Forbes and I think that family had a Yale background. But I think a more important comparison to Bush as far as success and whether it was earned or granted at birth is William Jefferson Clinton. Born to a poor woman in Arkansas, and went to school at Harvard without being a legacy. Bush has NEVER earned a position in his entire life. Without being George Herbert Walker Bush's son he would have been lucky to be a mid level oilfield manager in Midland Texas. And his failure to grasp the basics has shown through, especially in foreign policy for the last 7 years.
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I was honestly wondering. However the test scores and "legacy" only seems to matter if it is a righty.
 
Damocles said:
I was honestly wondering. However the test scores and "legacy" only seems to matter if it is a righty.
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Personally I find Legacy admissions as non-meritocratis as Affirmative Action with less logic to back them up. Legacy admissions are solely based on who your relative was. You can be a complete idiot and still be granted an admission on Legacy basis. Hell I got a letter from the University of Kansas School of Law saying that I would be admitted as a legacy if I applied. I NEVER sent them a transcript, never sent them my LSAT score and STILL I was told I could go to their school sight unseen. I would have gotten in but they should have NEVER told me I would without knowing about me first.
 
Socrtease said:
Bush got into two Yale for two reasons. Both his father and his grandfather went there. Legacies get into to college REGARDLESS of their scores and grades. No other C level highschool student with middling SAT's could have gotten in to Yale without being a legacy. I have always said that all things being equal, if GWB was George Walker Smith he would have been lucky to get into to San Jacinto College in Houston.
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Yes, I know about the whole legacy thing...
 
Socrtease said:
Personally I find Legacy admissions as non-meritocratis as Affirmative Action with less logic to back them up. Legacy admissions are solely based on who your relative was. You can be a complete idiot and still be granted an admission on Legacy basis. Hell I got a letter from the University of Kansas School of Law saying that I would be admitted as a legacy if I applied. I NEVER sent them a transcript, never sent them my LSAT score and STILL I was told I could go to their school sight unseen. I would have gotten in but they should have NEVER told me I would without knowing about me first.
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So, did you get into another law school?
 
Yeah I went to Washburn University School of Law in Topeka Kansas, graduated in 98. But they admitted me after looking at my LSAT score and my undergrad transcripts
 
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