I remember the virtual and hate towards Obama for doing what they cheer Trump does.
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It's impossible to accept an "concession" that wasn't offered or implied,even tacitly, Brad. You should know that.
Jake Starkey
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Diogenes, please post your sources.
She has none!
evince
Truthmatters
Fuck you racists
Go suck Millers cock and then climb into the sewer where you belong
Before we stomp you to the curb and kick you back into the sewer
You cant cheat enough to win
Your fucked
You lost
America hates racists
tigerred59
Verified User
During Biden's 4 years, Pete the Transportation secretary had a chemical train derailment happen, and the right ripped this poor man a new one...meanwhile Reality TV Pat has had more planes fuck ups in the history of this nation and you hear crickets.
Brad's claim is not true. While the U.S. military (primarily the Navy, in coordination with the Coast Guard) has conducted at least 15 lethal airstrikes on speedboats in the Caribbean Sea since early September 2025—killing over 60 people—these actions do not align with the described scenario of indiscriminate murders of unidentified individuals on non-viable migrant vessels without evidence of drugs. Here's a breakdown based on verified reports from multiple sources:Key Facts on the Strikes
- Nature of the Targets: The boats struck are "go-fast" speedboats (typically 20-50 feet long, multi-engine vessels capable of 50-80+ knots in open water), designed for high-speed smuggling from Venezuela, Colombia, or other South American origins through the Caribbean to the U.S. or islands like Trinidad and Tobago. These are not "boats that cannot even make it to the United States"—they are built for long-range transit (up to 700 miles round-trip) and carry up to 3,000 pounds of cargo per vessel.
en.wikipedia.org +1 - Evidence of Drugs: In several cases, drugs were recovered post-strike (e.g., 375+ packages of cocaine recovered by Dominican authorities after a September 2025 strike killing 3 people).
nytimes.com +1
The U.S. administration claims all targets were identified via intelligence as drug-laden vessels operated by cartels like Tren de Aragua (designated a terrorist organization in February 2025), often en route to the U.S. However, no public evidence (e.g., photos, manifests) has been released for most strikes, leading to criticism from lawmakers (e.g., Sen. Rand Paul) and international leaders (e.g., Colombian President Gustavo Petro) that some may involve fishermen or uninvolved parties.
pbs.org +1
Historical Coast Guard data shows ~27% of suspected drug boat interceptions (pre-strike era) yield no drugs, but this doesn't directly apply to the military's intel-driven strikes.
aljazeera.com - Identification of Victims: Victims are not entirely "unknown"—the U.S. has linked many to Tren de Aragua or similar groups based on surveillance (e.g., drone footage showing crew and routes).
usatoday.com +1
However, in most cases, no names or nationalities are publicly disclosed pre-strike, and post-strike identifications are incomplete (e.g., two unidentified bodies washed ashore in Trinidad after a September strike).
en.wikipedia.org
Survivors (rare, e.g., 2 from an October submersible strike) were repatriated to Colombia and Ecuador after vetting, with one Ecuadorian cleared of charges.
cnn.com +1
Critics, including human rights groups, argue this amounts to "extrajudicial killings" without due process.
globalsecurity.org +1 - Context and Legality: These strikes stem from an August 2025 naval buildup (8+ warships, 10,000 troops) under President Trump's directive to treat cartels as "unlawful combatants" in an "armed conflict," bypassing traditional Coast Guard interdictions (which involve boarding and arrests).
en.wikipedia.org +1
Legal experts question this under international law (e.g., no imminent threat justification, potential violations of UNCLOS).
bbc.com +1
Venezuelan officials call it a pretext for regime change.
pbs.org
No evidence links strikes to migrant boats; those are handled separately by Coast Guard (e.g., engine disablements, not killings).
militarytimes.com
Jake Starkey
Verified User
Why would anyone criticize Obama to the extent that Trump gets it.
Donald is the worse criminal President by far, many more times worse than Obama.
Donald is the worse criminal President by far, many more times worse than Obama.
AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
Whatcha talking about?
AI Overview
+9
Yes, there were significant and widespread protests against the Obama administration's high rates of deportation
. Immigrant rights activists, civil liberties organizations, and faith leaders frequently demonstrated against the administration's policies, especially as the number of deportations reached record highs.
Jarod concedes ^^^^^
How many did they try to kill?? I can think of two shootings at ice facilities in Texas and one at an ICE raid in California I an also remember at least two attempts to run over ICE agents
AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
You claimed there were no protests.
If I did would you admit that POTUS has a lot more information on the smuggling of narcotics in Venezuela than you have?
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AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
"Snuggling"
If you had a citation and I deemed it creditable on the topic, I would.
AI Overview
While the U.S. government does not publicly confirm the specifics of its intelligence-gathering methods, reports indicate that U.S. intelligence agencies
intercept important communications as part of ongoing operations related to counternarcotics trafficking and to gather intelligence on the Maduro regime.
Key points regarding U.S. interception of communications:
- Targeted Intelligence Gathering: U.S. intelligence collection efforts focus on tracking drug dealers and cartel operations, which involves intercepting relevant communications.
- Covert Operations: The U.S. President has authorized the CIA to conduct covert operations within Venezuela to influence political, military, or economic conditions, which can include intelligence gathering activities.
- Specific Incidents: Reports in late 2025 mention that a U.S. EP-3 aircraft with "radio-electronic reconnaissance capabilities" was operating within Venezuela's Exclusive Economic Zone, a type of aircraft designed to intercept electronic signals.
- Surveillance of Officials: U.S. intelligence reports have, at times, included information about conversations involving U.S. officials and Venezuelan figures (such as Nicolás Maduro), which were likely gathered through the interception of communications between foreign nationals.
- Cyberattacks: In 2025, it was reported that the CIA had successfully carried out a clandestine cyberattack against the Venezuelan government's computer network in the final year of the previous administration, demonstrating the use of digital tools for intelligence purposes.
How Does the U.S. Decide Which Boats to Target? Here’s What We Know.
Marco Rubio, the secretary of state and national security adviser, has reinforced the perception that the United States knows who is on the boats, where they are coming from and what they carry. “We track them from the very beginning,” he said this month.
Officials briefed on the strikes said that intercepted “signals intelligence” suggesting the boats were carrying drugs is the strongest intelligence collected.
They are very friendly narco-terrorists."Snuggling"