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You can't copy & paste it, because I made no such claim about SF, and you realize that now, and you realize what a psycho you are.
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You can't copy & paste it, because I made no such claim about SF, and you realize that now, and you realize what a psycho you are.
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I can't help but notice you will spend a lot of time going back and forth with Yurt over nothing...
Do take a moment and respond to my question if you would.
It's not a "death threshold" question - that's such a massive oversimplification. It's cost/benefit, with regard to not just the environment, but the economy, as well.
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when you produce SF's quotes, i'll reciprocate...i am not going allow you to weasel out by producing an entire thread and then asking me for specific quotes...so until then....here my link that proves you made such a claim:
http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?t=26377
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can you fucking read? i never said it was ONLY a death threshhold...i have repeatedly pointed out DEATHS and ENVIRONMENTAL harm....like i said...cars produce more death and environmental harm than offshore oil drilling....
yet, you are for cars, its a stupid stance to take. its an emotional one, not one based on logic or common sense.
Wait! Wait! I see now!
I'm expected to provide "backup" quotes to prove a claim that you said I made about SF....that I never actually made, but which you're too stubborn to admit that I never made now, because you realize that you misread what I said.
Makes sense. Well, guess what? I have no quotes to back up those claims, because I never made those claims, or whatever claims you were trying to say I made about SF.
Did I really have to explain that, Yurtsie? Really?
can you fucking read? i never said it was ONLY a death threshhold...i have repeatedly pointed out DEATHS and ENVIRONMENTAL harm....like i said...cars produce more death and environmental harm than offshore oil drilling....
yet, you are for cars, its a stupid stance to take. its an emotional one, not one based on logic or common sense.
Not at all. The effect on this oil spill to our economy is extremely negative, and does not justify the benefit of offshore drilling, which provides a fairly insignificant % of our overall energy needs.
Cars, while clearly risky, are a vital aspect to the U.S. economy; taking them away would have completely devastating effects on the lives of most Americans.
Do you get the whole cost/benefit thing now?
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it is not insignificant, if more drilling was allowed...more drilling is not allowed because of hypocrites like you...the cost/benefit is really a wuss out...cars and their accompanying deaths and pollution are FINE because we need them....guess what....we need oil and there are HUGE amounts of oil offshore, HUGE...so, if we actually drilled for the oil out there, there is no doubt it would be significant to our safety, economy etc....
even if it was a mere 10%...that is 10% less reliance on foreign oil
face it, you're an emotional basket case on this because you don't like seeing birds covered in oil, yet you have no problem with 10's of thousands of deaths and HUGE amounts of pollution auto's produce because "we need them"
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what in intellectually dishonest idiot...you can't provide back up quotes of your own...yet you expect others to
do you even realize how stupid you look? probably not, as your homosexual obsession with me (yurtsie) has clouded your judgment....btw...again, i'm married
You overstate the potential of offshore drilling. Even if it could reach the 10% threshold you are fabricating, the cost outweighs the benefit.
The benefit our cars to our economy and way of life, by comparison, isn't even close to the same ballpark you're playing in right now. It's a pretty dumb, and completely flawed, comparison. It's embarassing that you're sticking with it.
what in intellectually dishonest idiot...you can't provide back up quotes of your own...yet you expect others to
do you even realize how stupid you look? probably not, as your homosexual obsession with me (yurtsie) has clouded your judgment....btw...again, i'm married
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You miss the point again, Yurtsie.
What backup quotes are you looking for? The ones for the claim you made about what I said about SF, which I never made?
Do you realize how stupid YOU look?
Hey, Yurt - give me quotes to backup your claim that the earth is flat! Do it now!
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here is onceler linking up to prove he was not misrepresenting what was said....
now, he claims he doesn't have anything to back up, because he never claimed anything....
fucking ignorant tool
Um, yeah - because I said "there was a debate on seepage" and that "it looks stupid now." That's why I posted that link; you asked me to back up WHAT I SAID.
Then, you said that wasn't good enough, and started ranting about how I had to show specific posts, to backup WHAT I SAID ABOUT SF.
What did I say about SF, Yurtsie?
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its an ESTIMATE, not a fabrication you fucking dishonest hack...once again here you are MISREPRESENTING what was said...i said IF....do you know what that means, do you need me to educate you what IF means
your dishonest hack rhetoric is sadly boring
and let's see how much "fabrication" my 10% really is:
The OCS is a significant source of oil and gas for the Nation’s energy supply. The approximately 43 million leased OCS acres generally accounts for about 15 percent of America’s domestic natural gas production and about 27 percent of America’s domestic oil production. The MMS’s oversight and regulatory framework ensure production and drilling are done in an environmentally responsible manner, and done safely. In addition, MMS has finalized regulations to guide Renewable Energy endeavors located on the OCS. Examples of potential renewable energy projects include wind energy, wave energy, ocean current energy, and more.
The offshore areas of the United States are estimated to contain significant quantities of resources in yet-to-be-discovered fields. MMS estimates of oil and gas resources in undiscovered fields on the OCS (2006, mean estimates) total 86 billion barrels of oil and 420 trillion cubic feet of gas. These volumes represent about 60 percent of the oil and 40 percent of the natural gas resources estimated to be contained in remaining undiscovered fields in the United States.
http://www.mms.gov/offshore/
you're an embarrassment to yourself onceler
Um....Yurtsie? We were talking about domestic oil NEEDS. Not % of domestic oil PRODUCTION.
It's a good strategy, though. When you're backed into a corner, may as well change the goalposts as a last resort.
HaHa! I almost forgot about the seepage drama. That was comedy gold! On a par with the climate gate comedy.
No doubt, man! Seepage gate looks totally fucking stupid now.
We're still going to drill offshore though. It's not going to stop, nor should it. Every nation on the planet drills offshore, and we're not going to be the only one that doesn't.
We just need some jack booted regulatory authorities, and strict oversight. The captains of industry can't be trusted.
I read that Canada, and I think Norway require that relief wells be drilled simultaneously with an exploration well. That seems amazing, but I guess they think the risk of a blow out totally sucks. And Brazil seems to be way ahead of us in deep water safety. I don't know why we aren't doing the same shit. Probably something to do with the conservative/Sarah Palin crowd screeching for less regulations over the past two decades.
No doubt, man! Seepage gate looks totally fucking stupid now.
We're still going to drill offshore though. It's not going to stop, nor should it. Every nation on the planet drills offshore, and we're not going to be the only one that doesn't.
We just need some jack booted regulatory authorities, and strict oversight. The captains of industry can't be trusted.
I read that Canada, and I think Norway require that relief wells be drilled simultaneously with an exploration well. That seems amazing, but I guess they think the risk of a blow out totally sucks. And Brazil seems to be way ahead of us in deep water safety. I don't know why we aren't doing the same shit. Probably something to do with the conservative/Sarah Palin crowd screeching for less regulations over the past two decades.
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You really want to know why the USA doesn't do like Canada, Norway or Brazil with regards to offshore drilling?
Because we got some greedy MF'ers in the USA who don't give two rat farts about the livelihood of some fishermen if it means they can make more money.
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I see that you're still upset, over you being outed as a memeber of a cocksucker community.
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you seriously don't think 86 BILLION barrels would be 10% of our needs? i never changed the goal post, i showed you much oil currently exists and is produced and how much is out there...............thus.................showing you that the 10% is not a fabrication....
it is no wonder you constantly harp on me for alleged reading comprehension issues, because you're projecting your own insecurities....86 BILLION barrels of oil are only a 60% estimate of whats out there onceler...did you even read what i quoted? that should easily meet the 10% threshold i was talking about...