I used to think Russia gate was nothing.

Thing1 said:
That's serious hackery right there.

Let's just start w/ this: if Nunes is going to tell the WH today...what did Trump know when he tweeted?
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what did Trump know when he tweeted?

What difference does it make....

Trumps been called every name in the book since that tweet and now hes proven to be right.....

Isn't that the point ?
 
NOVA said:
what did Trump know when he tweeted?

What difference does it make....

Trumps been called every name in the book since that tweet and now hes proven to be right.....

Isn't that the point ?
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The bolded is ridiculous.

How has he been proven right? You are seriously in the koolaid, bravs. It's disgusting.
 
Thing1 said:
Presidents can't order wiretaps, and aren't involved at all in independent investigations conducted by the FBI or DOJ.
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No body says he 'ordered' it.....only the FISA court "ORDERS" it....

That don't mean Obama wasn't aware of it, or given updates on the investigation, or might have actually requested it through the FBI or DOJ....we dont' know those things.

Its been obvious that both were politicized at least as much as the IRS is proven to have been.....
 
Thing1 said:
So, you would really think that he knows something that Comey & pretty much no one else does; that upon repeated calls to release whatever evidence he has, the guy who doesn't hesitate for a second to blab everything on twitter would decide to show some discretion & keep it close to the vest; that he wouldn't reveal anything he knows & would allow his press secretary to do an embarrassing tapdance over & over again trying to cover for him; and that he'd actually come out and say that he didn't really put an "opinion" out there and was just going by what he heard from Judge Napolitano, and that it was really Fox that should be questioned about it.

Interesting.
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Why is it 'interesting'....Trump knows that FBI and DOJ investigations are classified.....and if he did what you suggest, you would

accuse him of what Hillary did, expose classified data....or you would accuse him of interfering with an on going investigation....
 
NOVA said:
Why is it 'interesting'....Trump knows that FBI and DOJ investigations are classified.....and if he did what you suggest, you would

accuse him of what Hillary did, expose classified data....or you would accuse him of interfering with an on going investigation....
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No way would Trump keep it a secret if he knew anything.

It would be on twitter immediately, just as the accusation was. Are you guys capable of deluding yourselves of anything, as long as it clears Trump somehow?
 
Thing1 said:
The bolded is ridiculous.

How has he been proven right? You are seriously in the koolaid, bravs. It's disgusting.
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Members of the Donald Trump transition team, possibly including Trump himself, were under U.S. government surveillance following November’s presidential election, House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) told reporters Wednesday.


Are you denying he was under government surveillance ?

Or are you parsing words and just saying Obama was totally ignorant of this investigation?

Like I asked before, does the buck ever get to Obama's desk...
 
NOVA said:
Members of the Donald Trump transition team, possibly including Trump himself, were under U.S. government surveillance following November’s presidential election, House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) told reporters Wednesday.

Nunes said the surveillance appeared to be legal but that he was concerned because it was not related to the FBI’s investigation into Russia’s meddling in the election and was widely disseminated across the intelligence community.


“I have seen intelligence reports that clearly show that the president-elect and his team were, I guess, at least monitored,” Nunes told reporters. “It looks to me like it was all legally collected, but it was essentially a lot of information on the president-elect and his transition team and what they were doing.”
Nunes said he is heading to the White House later Wednesday to brief Trump on what he has learned, which he said came from “sources who thought that we should know it.” He said he was trying to get more information by Friday from the FBI, CIA and NSA.
Does Obama owe Trump an apology ?
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huh?? I thought this was supposed to be a "counter-intelligence" FBI op??
It looks more and more like a fishing expedition
 
Thing1 said:
No way would Trump keep it a secret if he knew anything.

It would be on twitter immediately, just as the accusation was. Are you guys capable of deluding yourselves of anything, as long as it clears Trump somehow?
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Of course, I forgot you were a mind reader and own a deck of Tarot cards......you're dismissed.
 
Bravs, you are such an immense hypocrite. It really is stomach-churning.

Trump called Obama a "bad (sick) guy." And all he knew when he tweeted that was what he read in the NY Times (an article that didn't even mention wiretapping).

Meanwhile, you know nothing about Nunes revelation - but you're ready to say that Trump is telling the truth & that Obama was directly involved.

I mean, I just feel bad for you, more than anything. So deep in the koolaid.
 
NOVA said:
Of course, I forgot you were a mind reader and own a deck of Tarot cards......you're dismissed.
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TRUMP EVEN SAID THAT IT WAS BASED ON WHAT HE READ IN NY TIMES & LATER BASED ON WHAT HE SAW ON FOX.

How can you keep this up? How is someone capable of this?
 
I've seen you post for years, bravs - this same kind of denial & apologism - but it never ceases to astound me.

There is no one quite like that; not even Hannity.
 
Darth Omar said:
Except that it has a whiff of Watergate lol. The objective in Watergate was political and Nixon got caught.

If the IC leaks were intended to damage Trump [and they clearly were] I fail to see much distinction. Except we can't know whether Obama was aware of it or not. Brennen was aware of it before congress, so I'd say it's better than a 50/50 chance Obama knew as well. And if Obama ordered it, Thingy owes Trump an apology. Also, breaking into a motel room is mere burglary. Unmasking and then releasing Flynn's name is a tad more serious.

What's the saying? Where's there's smoke there's fire?
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Rump breaking into the DNC (with Russian help) has more than a whiff of Watergate.
 
Darth Omar said:
No one asked Comey so I'll ask you lol.

Can you categorically deny that Trump Tower wasn't and/or hasn't been under electronic surveillance?

Yes or no will be fine.
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Rump cant honestly say it happened, but he did! But he's a LIAR.
 
Thing1 said:
Trump's lie isn't an isolated incident. It's part of a repetitive pattern. We're 2 months into his Presidency, and his credibility - nationally and globally - is almost down to zero.

So, we disagree. I think the credibility of the leader of the free world is a pretty huge thing. If our citizens and allies can't trust what he says, where does that leave us? What happens when a real crisis hits?

Yeah, we definitely do not agree on that. Pathological lying is a disturbing trait for a leader, and not being able to trust that leader undermines everything else. That has the potential to be much more damaging.
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He lied for years about the Birther shit.
 
NOVA said:
Members of the Donald Trump transition team, possibly including Trump himself, were under U.S. government surveillance following November’s presidential election, House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) told reporters Wednesday.

Nunes said the surveillance appeared to be legal but that he was concerned because it was not related to the FBI’s investigation into Russia’s meddling in the election and was widely disseminated across the intelligence community.


“I have seen intelligence reports that clearly show that the president-elect and his team were, I guess, at least monitored,” Nunes told reporters. “It looks to me like it was all legally collected, but it was essentially a lot of information on the president-elect and his transition team and what they were doing.”
Nunes said he is heading to the White House later Wednesday to brief Trump on what he has learned, which he said came from “sources who thought that we should know it.” He said he was trying to get more information by Friday from the FBI, CIA and NSA.


Does Obama owe Trump an apology ?
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Now you are lying, incidentally picking something up from Rump is not the same thing as conducting surveillance of him. Man are you desperate!

Its an age old Criminal Defense attorney trick, if the police catch you in a crime, attack the police.

I hope they incidentally got Rump committing a felony.
 
You Rump worshipers are so desperate its funny.


So the FBI at some point was investigating someone unconnected to Rump and incidentally got something on Rump, and that is what you are claiming is "Obama having his wires tapped at Rump Tower"? WOW, you are pitiful Rump lap dogs. Silly!
 
Jarod said:
Now you are lying, incidentally picking something up from Rump is not the same thing as conducting surveillance of him. Man are you desperate!

Its an age old Criminal Defense attorney trick, if the police catch you in a crime, attack the police.

I hope they incidentally got Rump committing a felony.
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So you're denying this happened ?

“I have seen intelligence reports that clearly show that the president-elect and his team were, I guess, at least monitored,” Nunes told reporters. “It looks to me like it was all legally collected, but it was essentially a lot of information on the president-elect and his transition team and what they were doing.”
Nunes said he is heading to the White House later Wednesday to brief Trump on what he has learned, which he said came from “sources who thought that we should know it.” He said he was trying to get more information by Friday from the FBI, CIA and NSA.
 
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