If God were real, you wouldn’t need a book

[Ross Dolan]

Oh goody! Another moron who doesn't understand the concept is going to decree who can think what. Thus sayeth the LORD ALMIGHTY ROSS.

Fuck off, Ross. I couldn't care less what a know-nothing like you thinks about....ANYTHING.

My bet is that I hit the nail squarely on its head.

But we can test that...if you have more balls than Zen. Let's see.

You designate yourself an atheist...and I just said that almost certainly means you have one of two beliefs. You are indicating I am full of shit...so...

...I say you "believe" there are no gods...or...

...you "believe" it is more likely that there are no gods than that there is at least one.

Are you saying that neither of those are "beliefs" of yours?

C'mon. Tell me you do not "believe" there are no gods...

...and you also do not "believe" it is more likely that there are no gods than that there is at least one.

C'mon.

You can even lie about it.

 

[Cypress]

versus

you have presented two conflicting definitions of agnosticism in this rancid post of stupidity!!

Think man, think!

"Have not ruled out" is not a knowledge claim nor is it a truth claim.
It is an acknowledgment that you do not presently know for sure one way or the other.

So once again, you are obviously agnostic because you only disbelieve ancient Iron age gods, but have not ruled out philosophically that there is a higher rational agency underlying the universe.

 

[ZenMode]

That's not the definition of atheist.

If you look in the dictionary, it does not define atheist as disbelief in the ancient Iron age gods that annoy Zenmode.

There are more modern philosophical or naturalistic views of god or the divine universal, aka pantheism, deism, transcendentalism, wicca, etc.

So once again, you are obviously agnostic because you only disbelieve ancient Iron age gods, but have not ruled out philosophically that there is a higher rational agency underlying the universe.

"I do not know" is agnosticism.

You still keep studiously avoiding answering how something can come from nothing, how the rational can come from the irrational, how lawful order can come from random chance and chaos.

Those aren't abstract, esoteric questions. Those are questions you can relate to your real life experience.

The only gods that there's any evidence for are those written about by man, so those are the only ones I address.

Any other unidentified gods are just ''god of the gaps" type of stuff.

 

[Monad Portal]

Think man, think!

"Have not ruled out" is not a knowledge claim nor is it a truth claim.
It is an acknowledgment that you do not presently know for sure one way or the other.

ya but all that shit about "but have not ruled out ..." is not part of the definition of agnosticism.

you're wordstuffing.

 

[gmark77]

My bet is that I hit the nail squarely on its head.

But we can test that...if you have more balls than Zen. Let's see.

You designate yourself an atheist...and I just said that almost certainly means you have one of two beliefs. You are indicating I am full of shit...so...

...I say you "believe" there are no gods...or...

...you "believe" it is more likely that there are no gods than that there is at least one.

Are you saying that neither of those are "beliefs" of yours?

C'mon. Tell me you do not "believe" there are no gods...

...and you also do not "believe" it is more likely that there are no gods than that there is at least one.

C'mon.

You can even lie about it.

LOL. I love how your magic phrase has some deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep meaning to you while virtually no one else gives fuck.

I simply fail to believe in people's claims of God.

That is too hard for you to understand and that is really, really sad for you.

Because you don't understand how science or the US Justice system works. Hopefully you don't vote.