If God were real, you wouldn’t need a book

[gmark77]

Actually, I asked something in my #83 that does require some sort of response...especially the part where I ask about a question I asked in my #5. And my question in my #275 should get a response.

I did respond to your questions.

Ok. That’s nice. When I get around to it

 

[Into the Night]

the golden rule is nearly literally the definition of reciprocity.

why do you anti-christ chucklefucks hate Jesus?

Why do you assume I or Matt hates Jesus??

 

[Into the Night]

is sniping Gaza babies in the head objectively wrong and absolutely evil for all time and all places?

Depends on who you ask.

 

[Into the Night]

there is.

morality is a set of attitudes and behaviors that facilitate voluntary, cooperative and mutually beneficial relationships.

Redefinition fallacy. Morality is 'proper behavior' in a society. Nothing else. It does not define what that society is. It does not define any absolutes.

Jesus called It the golden rule.

This is one type of morals to go by. I happen to agree with it, but not everybody does.

but of course, deep state murder freaks love evil and so refuse to acknowledge or define shitty behavior.

Try English. It works better.

 

[Into the Night]

cypress is a demon worshipping Zionist shill.

Try English. It works better.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

yes you satanic chuckle fucks hate Jesus and are still rejecting the golden rule and pushing moral relativism.

 

[Into the Night]

Jesus fucking Christ. This stupid fuck thinks civilization did not exist prior to his scriptures.

It didn't.

Or in places that had never seen the scriptures.

Irrelevant. All civilizations follow a core set of law or 'scripture'.

 

[Into the Night]

Well....IF A GOD EXISTS...everything would be evidence that it exists..

Everything is.

.even if we are unable to show that it is. Diesel, IF A CREATOR GOD (OR GODS) EXIST...all of what exists is because of it whether we can show that to be the case or not.

Evidence is not a proof.

To say that there has never been any evidence that any (GOD) exists...is itself, irrational.

It could be argued as such, since it is an attempt to deny everything.

The very best we can say about the true nature of the REALITY of existence..

Nonsense phrase. Try English. It works better.

.and specifically "does at least one god exist?) is...

There is evidence for it. You admitted it yourself.

...I DO NOT KNOW AND CANNOT MAKE A REASONABLE, INFORMED GUESS.

Here at last you recognize the circular nature of any such claim. Any belief in a god or gods cannot be proven. Such belief MUST exist on faith, and faith alone.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

Try English. It works better.

better than what?

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

It didn't.

Irrelevant. All civilizations follow a core set of law or 'scripture'.

do social animal species also have a scripture?

 

[Into the Night]

I despise when laws have at their basis primarily a religious foundation.

Then you despise the United States. See the Declaration of Independence and root of how the Constitution itself was formed.

Obviously some laws have a religious foundation, but with a reasonable societal need. Murder and theft come immediately to mind. They do not bother me. If no gods found them objectionable, a reasonable society would have to control them.

Yet both of these laws are religiously based.

Laws should be promulgated in furtherance of a benefit to society.

But what society? A society of drug dealers? A society of gangs? A society of hardworking people on the farm? A society of church members?

Laws like "Sundays (or Saturdays) are sacred and such and such cannot be done" are unreasonable.

Why?

Laws that limit marriage eligibility because of age considerations make sense...laws that limit marriage eligibility because of race or gender do not...no matter that they might offend some god or another. Laws that declare I must pledge my allegiance the flag of our nation "under god" is, in my opinion, bullshit...as is having "In god we trust" on our money.

By definition, marriage is between a man and a woman. There is no other definition.

 

[Into the Night]

It also doesn't mean there isn't a herd of unicorns living in my basement.

You have unicorns living in your basement? Why don't you at least build a coral for them? I can only imagine how much damage they are taking from each other's horns in such an enclosed space.

 

[Into the Night]

Why?

There is no why. Everything is simply evidence that a god or gods exist.
Evidence is not a proof.

 

[Into the Night]

@Cypress is "agnostic" about your claim. Unlike an adult who can process information and say "Yeah, I lack belief in your claim of a unicorn", Cy has to take it on faith that since you have said it there is at least a chance ergo he must be "agnostic".

LOL.

A claim is not a god or gods.

 

[Into the Night]

If everything is evidence for God then it kind of feels like nothing is.

Paradox. Irrational. You cannot argue both sides of a paradox. Strange loop fallacy.

How does one even test the claim that God exists if, ex cathedra, we are told everything is ipso facto evidence of God?

You can't. The evidence simply exists.

Kind of makes God into an unfalsfiable concept which is pretty much useless and easily dismissed.

Correct. This is true of any unfalsifiable theory, such as:

The Theory of Evolution.
The Theory of Abiogenesis.
The Theory of Creation.
The Theory of the Big Bang.
The Theory of the Continuum.
The Theory of Multiverse.

ANY belief in an unfalsifiable theory is and must be based on faith, and faith alone.

It is not possible to prove any theory True in an open functional system.
It IS possible to prove a theory of science False.

 

[Into the Night]

do social animal species also have a scripture?

Essentially, yes. It is not a written text as you would normally call a 'scripture', but they too have a core set of laws, based on their instincts. It could easily be argued that a god or gods set this society in motion and it has continued unabated ever since.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

Then you despise the United States. See the Declaration of Independence and root of how the Constitution itself was formed.

Yet both of these laws are religiously based.

But what society? A society of drug dealers? A society of gangs? A society of hardworking people on the farm? A society of church members?

Why?

By definition, marriage is between a man and a woman. There is no other definition.

but are atheists pro murder?

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

Essentially, yes. It is not a written text as you would normally call a 'scripture', but they too have a core set of laws, based on their instincts.

now I know you're smoking dope.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

for dum dum intothenight, having a social instinct = having a scripture.

so stupid.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

Essentially, yes. It is not a written text as you would normally call a 'scripture', but they too have a core set of laws, based on their instincts. It could easily be argued that a god or gods set this society in motion and it has continued unabated ever since.

dumbest shit ever.