If God were real, you wouldn’t need a book

[Into the Night]

And still horribly wrong.

The age of Earth is unknown.

The calculation of the Earth's age is based on geneology, one of which claims to trace a blood line back to Adam and Eve. From that point, the math estimates are pretty easy.

The age of Earth is unknown. There is no calculation.

You're running cover for ridiculous,

Inversion fallacy.

anti-science claims of the Bible.

Nothing in the bible violates or ignores any theory of science.

Most Christians believe the Bible is literal BECAUSE it's sold as the Word of God.

The Bible is not about basketball players.

 

[Into the Night]

No babble. Just things you don't want to honestly discuss.

You aren't discussing anything. Inversion fallacy.

Sometimes I choose to ignore your games and try to respond to the topic. Other times I don't.

You can't blame your word games on anybody else, Automaton. You currently have no topic.

You don't want to discuss anything. You just want to preach.

 

[ZenMode]

You aren't discussing anything. Inversion fallacy.

Like I said....

 

[ZenMode]

Lie.

Lie.

Science shows no such thing. You still have no idea what science is. Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism).

Repetition fallacy.

Illiteracy: Plurality used for singular.
Logic errors: Synthesis. Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism).

The Bible never describes any such thing. Synthesis.

The age of the Earth is unknown. The Bible doesn't describe it either. Omniscience fallacy.

Omniscience fallacy.

No need. No worldwide flooding anymore.
I assume you are trying to discuss Noah and the Ark.

No one said this was the only ark, or that others in the world escape the Flood in a different way.

If you look at the cultures in the world, they generally have a Great Flood story and how their tribe survived it.

You are only listing your own fiction.

Lie.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

A handful of posts showing that, like other words, you have made up your own definition of science.

Nothing surprising given that you are a Christian. The mental gymnastics to pretend you believe in science, while being a Christian, have to be exhausting.

 

[Melchizedek=Tecumseh]

Nope.

Catholics assert that Mary's pregnancy with Jesus was miraculous, directly from God, etc. Because Mary was chosen by God for this role, Catholics assert that Mary is blessed and favored, that Mary has a special place in heaven, and that she should be treated with solemn respect. This is what Catholics have been asserting for centuries.

There is no "perpetual virginity" in that narrative.

I see that you don't mind bearing false witness.

You can't be a Perpetual virgin and have others kids named James,Joseph, Simon and Judas!

 

[Melchizedek=Tecumseh]

Nope. You are just bearing false witness.

Mary wasn't the "Perpetual Virgin"

 

[Melchizedek=Tecumseh]

You are highly confused. Perpetual virginity in Catholic doctrine means that no man's penis found its way into her cootchie.

Why are non-Catholics suddenly pretending to speak for Catholics, and getting it so WRONG?

 

[Melchizedek=Tecumseh]

Yes, she has a biological baby without sex.

Jesus yes,the rest no!

 

[Melchizedek=Tecumseh]

Wasn't that CS Lewis?

Either way this is an emotional appeal. No one wants to insult believers and use pejorative terms like "liar" or "lunatic".

Look at the countless others who, throughout history, have claimed to be the Lord. It happens.

Here's something else to think about: what if Jesus was an honest well-meaning apocalyptic preacher (a dime a dozen in that era Palestine) and upon his death his cult, through a combination of imagination, confusion and desperation invented the stories.

Explain how the Holy Spirit arrived? No Holy Spirit, Jesus would have been forgot about long ago!

 

[Melchizedek=Tecumseh]

What is 'mainstream Christianity', Hugo?

What do you see as Mainstream Christianity?

 

[Into the Night]

A handful of posts showing that, like other words, you have made up your own definition of science.

I am not redefining anything. YOU ARE. You can't blame your word games on anybody else, Automaton.

Nothing surprising given that you are a Christian.

Science is not Christianity or any other religion.

The mental gymnastics to pretend you believe in science, while being a Christian, have to be exhausting.

Science is not a religion.

 

[Into the Night]

What do you see as Mainstream Christianity?

I don't use the term. YOU DO. What is 'mainstream Christianity'?

 

[Melchizedek=Tecumseh]

I don't use the term. YOU DO. What is 'mainstream Christianity'?

Traditional Denominations,would be the Secular view.
The Theology view would be believers with the Holy Spirit

 

[IBDaMann]

I think you mean 'sail' instead of 'sale'?

No way! Are you telling me that there wasn't any Black Friday event ? Why would they sail if they could hold a sale?

People DO build boats by hand.

I have to give this one to you. Those custom jobs aren't mass-produced.

Noah DIDN'T collect all of the mammals himself (instead, God directed the mammals to go onto the ark ... much easier that way).

How long did all of the animals have to spend in obedience school?

Boats can float on water for a very long time.

Various studies at strategic marinas around the world have come to the same astonishing conclusion: boats that are left in water ... continue to float. No one is sure why, exactly, but some experts have theorized a "buoyancy" principle that acts as a counter-effect to gravity, preventing the boats from crashing to the ocean floor.

You're gonna need more because you haven't come up with one single example that "we" "know to be wrong" "because of science".

Did you notice any science whatsoever?

No you don't. You don't know what religion is either.

You know, I didn't think he did.

 

[IBDaMann]

Stopped reading here. Done with dumb word games.

So we can expect that you are going to stop making stupid assertions about science until you learn what it is?

 

[IBDaMann]

Traditional Denominations,would be the Secular view.
The Theology view would be believers with the Holy Spirit

Did you just write that those who believe as you do are correct and are blessed with the Holy Spirit, while those who deviate from your beliefs are devoid of the Holy Spirit and are actually secular?

So, answer the question: "Which ones are mainstream?"

 

[ZenMode]

No way! Are you telling me that there wasn't any Black Friday event ? Why would they sail if they could hold a sale?


I have to give this one to you. Those custom jobs aren't mass-produced.

How long did all of the animals have to spend in obedience school?


Various studies at strategic marinas around the world have come to the same astonishing conclusion: boats that are left in water ... continue to float. No one is sure why, exactly, but some experts have theorized a "buoyancy" principle that acts as a counter-effect to gravity, preventing the boats from crashing to the ocean floor.

Did you notice any science whatsoever?


You know, I didn't think he did.

To clarify....

You believe that Noah built a cruise ship size boat, collected all of the species of animals on earth, kept the predators from eating the prey for months upon months, while keeping all of them fed, and then, once they were released, the predators waited for the prey to reproduce before eating them?

Do I have that right?

 

[Melchizedek=Tecumseh]

Did you just write that those who believe as you do are correct and are blessed with the Holy Spirit, while those who deviate from your beliefs are devoid of the Holy Spirit and are actually secular?

So, answer the question: "Which ones are mainstream?"

No! Apparently it went over your head! And the Holy Spirit manifest itself in different ways in each of us.

 

[Melchizedek=Tecumseh]

To clarify....

You believe that Noah built a cruise ship size boat, collected all of the species of animals on earth, kept the predators from eating the prey for months upon months, while keeping all of them fed, and then, once they were released, the predators waited for the prey to reproduce before eating them?

Do I have that right?

Lot of water in those oceans.

 

[Into the Night]

Traditional Denominations,would be the Secular view.
The Theology view would be believers with the Holy Spirit

What is a 'Traditional Demonitation'?
What is a 'Secular view'?
A spirit is not a view.