If JD Vance Is Wealthy, Why Did He Let His Own Mother Scrape by on Medicaid? A sordid tale of Republican political and religious hypocrisy.

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If JD Vance Is Wealthy, Why Did He Let His Own Mother Scrape by on Medicaid? | Common Dreams

A sordid tale of Republican political and religious hypocrisy.

www.commondreams.org

Assuming they haven’t been vacationing on Mars for the last decade or so, every American must be aware that it has been the relentless ambition of Republican politicians to repeal, roll back, or weaken the Affordable Care Act of 2010 (ACA), otherwise known as Obamacare.

ACA is a major government safety-net project alongside Social Security and Medicare. As of February 2024, 20.8 million persons were enrolled in the program, the highest number at any one time, and since Obamacare’s passage, almost 50 million people have received coverage at some point. The health care program has literally been a lifesaver for countless Americans.

Up until the culmination of their repeal efforts in mid-2017 (at a time the GOP controlled both houses and the presidency), when the program only survived because Sen. John McCain left treatment for terminal cancer to vote “no,” Newsweek “found at least 70 Republican-led attempts to repeal, modify or otherwise curb the Affordable Care Act since its inception as law on March 23, 2010.”

GOP attempts to wreck the program, although more sporadic since, have continued. This year, House Republicans reported a budget that would have defunded ACA as well as Medicaid expansion while hiking Medicare premiums and prescription drug prices. They “balanced” these cuts with giveaways to Big Pharma and allowing insurers to sell “junk” policies with minimal-to-no coverage.

His ostentatious religiosity is largely phony and used as a vehicle for his ambition to rise in the Republican Party.

With that history in mind, picture the surreal moment in the vice-presidential debate between Tim Walz and JD Vance, when the latter said “Members of my family actually got private health insurance, at least, for the first time . . . under Donald Trump’s leadership.” Vance said that his family members switched from Medicaid to Obamacare between 2017 and 2021.

The Ohio senator has frequently tried to characterize Trump’s actions while president as having preserved or stabilized ACA, when in fact he did no such thing. Enrollments in the ACA exchange in Ohio, where Vance’s family lived, fell during Trump’s presidency, while the uninsured rate increased. Obamacare survived simply because congressional Republicans couldn’t quite muster the votes to kill it, but not for want of trying. Candidate Trump is still angling to get rid of it, although he only has “concepts of a plan” to replace it.

How does Vance get away with such lies? Undoubtedly for the same reason Republicans get away with all their lies. “All politicians lie” is the cynical American’s appraisal of the officials he or she elects, and this is of course true to the extent that all human beings lie, or at least shade the facts to place themselves in a favorable light. But Republicans have catapulted the lie to another category altogether.

They lie because they dare not reveal their actual agenda. They cannot very well tell the general public, “We intend to kick you off your health care and provide a huge payday to the drug companies who give us campaign donations.” Neither could they characterize Trump’s intended revenue policy as “We plan to get rid of income taxes for our rich contributors and use tariffs to shift the entire tax burden onto consumers in an extremely regressive fashion.”

 

[Cypress]

If JD Vance Is Wealthy, Why Did He Let His Own Mother Scrape by on Medicaid? | Common Dreams

A sordid tale of Republican political and religious hypocrisy.

www.commondreams.org

Assuming they haven’t been vacationing on Mars for the last decade or so, every American must be aware that it has been the relentless ambition of Republican politicians to repeal, roll back, or weaken the Affordable Care Act of 2010 (ACA), otherwise known as Obamacare.

ACA is a major government safety-net project alongside Social Security and Medicare. As of February 2024, 20.8 million persons were enrolled in the program, the highest number at any one time, and since Obamacare’s passage, almost 50 million people have received coverage at some point. The health care program has literally been a lifesaver for countless Americans.

Up until the culmination of their repeal efforts in mid-2017 (at a time the GOP controlled both houses and the presidency), when the program only survived because Sen. John McCain left treatment for terminal cancer to vote “no,” Newsweek “found at least 70 Republican-led attempts to repeal, modify or otherwise curb the Affordable Care Act since its inception as law on March 23, 2010.”

GOP attempts to wreck the program, although more sporadic since, have continued. This year, House Republicans reported a budget that would have defunded ACA as well as Medicaid expansion while hiking Medicare premiums and prescription drug prices. They “balanced” these cuts with giveaways to Big Pharma and allowing insurers to sell “junk” policies with minimal-to-no coverage.

His ostentatious religiosity is largely phony and used as a vehicle for his ambition to rise in the Republican Party.

With that history in mind, picture the surreal moment in the vice-presidential debate between Tim Walz and JD Vance, when the latter said “Members of my family actually got private health insurance, at least, for the first time . . . under Donald Trump’s leadership.” Vance said that his family members switched from Medicaid to Obamacare between 2017 and 2021.

The Ohio senator has frequently tried to characterize Trump’s actions while president as having preserved or stabilized ACA, when in fact he did no such thing. Enrollments in the ACA exchange in Ohio, where Vance’s family lived, fell during Trump’s presidency, while the uninsured rate increased. Obamacare survived simply because congressional Republicans couldn’t quite muster the votes to kill it, but not for want of trying. Candidate Trump is still angling to get rid of it, although he only has “concepts of a plan” to replace it.

How does Vance get away with such lies? Undoubtedly for the same reason Republicans get away with all their lies. “All politicians lie” is the cynical American’s appraisal of the officials he or she elects, and this is of course true to the extent that all human beings lie, or at least shade the facts to place themselves in a favorable light. But Republicans have catapulted the lie to another category altogether.

They lie because they dare not reveal their actual agenda. They cannot very well tell the general public, “We intend to kick you off your health care and provide a huge payday to the drug companies who give us campaign donations.” Neither could they characterize Trump’s intended revenue policy as “We plan to get rid of income taxes for our rich contributors and use tariffs to shift the entire tax burden onto consumers in an extremely regressive fashion.”

Under the Obamacare Medicaid expansion, Ohio has had expanded access to Medicaid since 2014. So Mama Vance's access to Medicaid was protected and expanded by Barack Obama, while JD was letting his mother stay on Medicaid.

 

[Jarod]

I do not know his family dynamic, but sometimes with addicts not giving them anything is best.

I have an extremely wealthy niece whose mother is an addict, she gives her nothing and its what's best. If you give my sister a dime, she moves out of her ALF into the home of a friend, and does drugs until the money runs out, then right back to the AFL.

 

[anonymoose]

Under the Obamacare Medicaid expansion, Ohio has had expanded access to Medicaid since 2014. So Mama Vance's access to Medicaid was protected and expanded by Barack Obama, while JD was letting his mother stay on Medicaid.

My ex-front desk lady, who I fired and reported to the police for forging 150+ narcotics prescriptions, and who spent an estimated $800- $900/month on cigarettes subsequently qualified for Medicaid.
The rest of my employees lost their good health insurance which I provided . Fortunately they were in good enough health to get Christian medical cost sharing.

 

[Cypress]

My ex-front desk lady, who I fired and reported to the police for forging 150+ narcotics prescriptions, and who spent an estimated $800- $900/month on cigarettes subsequently qualified for Medicaid.
The rest of my employees lost their good health insurance which I provided . Fortunately they were in good enough health to get Christian medical cost sharing.

So? Personal anecdotal stories are not that convincing.

 

[anonymoose]

So? Personal anecdotal stories are not that convincing.

Regardless, the point is that the ACA penalized healthy folks who exhibited personal responsibility and rewarded the irresponsible.
It also left Alaska with one health insurance program. The others dropped out causing a massive increase in premiums.
Some would call that wealth redistribution or socialism.
It’s all good though. I actually used it to my advantage.
I always take advantage of gubmint when it attempts to penalize me unfairly.
It’s not that hard to outsmart gubmint. It’s the epitome of fraud, waste, abuse, corruption and inefficiency.

 

[Walt]

Regardless, the point is that the ACA penalized healthy folks who exhibited personal responsibility and rewarded the irresponsible.
It also left Alaska with one health insurance program. The others dropped out causing a massive increase in premiums.
Some would call that wealth redistribution or socialism.
It’s all good though. I actually used it to my advantage.
I always take advantage of gubmint when it attempts to penalize me unfairly.
It’s not that hard to outsmart gubmint. It’s the epitome of fraud, waste, abuse, corruption and inefficiency.

I know for a fact that Alaska has multiple health insurance companies.

 

[anonymoose]

I know for a fact that Alaska has multiple health insurance companies.

I was talking about when it became effective. The ACA has been watered down significantly since.

 

[Hawkeye10]

I dont assume that the claim tracks with reality.....if it does I point out that families are complicated.

 

[Walt]

I was talking about when it became effective. The ACA has been watered down significantly since.

There has never been a time that Alaska has only had one insurance company. There are some companies in Alaska willing to pay whatever for health insurance, so there are health insurance companies willing to provide that health insurance. See how that works?

The ACA did nothing to change that.

 

[anonymoose]

There has never been a time that Alaska has only had one insurance company. There are some companies in Alaska willing to pay whatever for health insurance, so there are health insurance companies willing to provide that health insurance. See how that works?

The ACA did nothing to change that.

Almost Never Right WALT almost never being right is on purpose.

Yes, I believe that. He has no clue what he’s talking about there.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Yes, I believe that. He has no clue what he’s talking about there.

WALT knows what reality looks like..... his mission is to waste your time and confuse you.....if you are dumb enough to let him.

 

[Walt]

Yes, I believe that. He has no clue what he’s talking about there.

Do you realize how much oil flows on the Trans Alaska Pipeline? Oil companies are willing to go to one of the least hospitable places on Earth, to get oil. They are willing to pay blue collar workings good six figure salaries for a few months of work. And they are willing to pay whatever it takes to get those workers health insurance.

And do you know what? Insurance companies are willing to do whatever it takes to get that money.

If you are an unemployed meth head from Anchorage, you may have only one option. I don't know them, so really do not know. If you are an engineer, you have the two choices that your employer offers you. If you switch jobs, you have two more choices. They are going to make sure you are well taken care of.

 

[anonymoose]

And do you know what? Insurance companies are willing to do whatever it takes to get that money.

If you are an unemployed meth head from Anchorage, you may have only one option. I don't know them, so really do not know. If you switch jobs, you have two more choices. They are going to make sure you are well taken care of.

Where were you in 2010 when the ACA was implemented?
I was self employed in Anchorage w/ 6 employees.

Do you realize how much oil flows on the Trans Alaska Pipeline?

Yes it's been declining for years now. Alaska has been in a long term recession, losing population.

Oil companies are willing to go to one of the least hospitable places on Earth, to get oil. They are willing to pay blue collar workings good six figure salaries for a few months of work. And they are willing to pay whatever it takes to get those workers health insurance.

Correct. BC/BS was the only option after ACA was implemented. Not only oil companies but everybody had to pay whatever it took for hlth. ins.

If you are an engineer, you have the two choices that your employer offers you.

If you were a janitor for port-a-lets you had one choice back then.

Why do you pretend to know what goes on in Alaska when you never lived here? I've been here since 1999 and was self employed until I sold the business.
You come across as either someone on welfare or has a gubmint "job" that's impossible to get fired from, also known as a professional coffee drinker.

 

[ExpressLane]

If JD Vance Is Wealthy, Why Did He Let His Own Mother Scrape by on Medicaid? | Common Dreams

A sordid tale of Republican political and religious hypocrisy.

www.commondreams.org

Assuming they haven’t been vacationing on Mars for the last decade or so, every American must be aware that it has been the relentless ambition of Republican politicians to repeal, roll back, or weaken the Affordable Care Act of 2010 (ACA), otherwise known as Obamacare.

ACA is a major government safety-net project alongside Social Security and Medicare. As of February 2024, 20.8 million persons were enrolled in the program, the highest number at any one time, and since Obamacare’s passage, almost 50 million people have received coverage at some point. The health care program has literally been a lifesaver for countless Americans.

Up until the culmination of their repeal efforts in mid-2017 (at a time the GOP controlled both houses and the presidency), when the program only survived because Sen. John McCain left treatment for terminal cancer to vote “no,” Newsweek “found at least 70 Republican-led attempts to repeal, modify or otherwise curb the Affordable Care Act since its inception as law on March 23, 2010.”

GOP attempts to wreck the program, although more sporadic since, have continued. This year, House Republicans reported a budget that would have defunded ACA as well as Medicaid expansion while hiking Medicare premiums and prescription drug prices. They “balanced” these cuts with giveaways to Big Pharma and allowing insurers to sell “junk” policies with minimal-to-no coverage.

His ostentatious religiosity is largely phony and used as a vehicle for his ambition to rise in the Republican Party.

With that history in mind, picture the surreal moment in the vice-presidential debate between Tim Walz and JD Vance, when the latter said “Members of my family actually got private health insurance, at least, for the first time . . . under Donald Trump’s leadership.” Vance said that his family members switched from Medicaid to Obamacare between 2017 and 2021.

The Ohio senator has frequently tried to characterize Trump’s actions while president as having preserved or stabilized ACA, when in fact he did no such thing. Enrollments in the ACA exchange in Ohio, where Vance’s family lived, fell during Trump’s presidency, while the uninsured rate increased. Obamacare survived simply because congressional Republicans couldn’t quite muster the votes to kill it, but not for want of trying. Candidate Trump is still angling to get rid of it, although he only has “concepts of a plan” to replace it.

How does Vance get away with such lies? Undoubtedly for the same reason Republicans get away with all their lies. “All politicians lie” is the cynical American’s appraisal of the officials he or she elects, and this is of course true to the extent that all human beings lie, or at least shade the facts to place themselves in a favorable light. But Republicans have catapulted the lie to another category altogether.

They lie because they dare not reveal their actual agenda. They cannot very well tell the general public, “We intend to kick you off your health care and provide a huge payday to the drug companies who give us campaign donations.” Neither could they characterize Trump’s intended revenue policy as “We plan to get rid of income taxes for our rich contributors and use tariffs to shift the entire tax burden onto consumers in an extremely regressive fashion.”

Why did AOC let her granny live with a hurricane damaged roof?

 

[ExpressLane]

My ex-front desk lady, who I fired and reported to the police for forging 150+ narcotics prescriptions, and who spent an estimated $800- $900/month on cigarettes subsequently qualified for Medicaid.
The rest of my employees lost their good health insurance which I provided . Fortunately they were in good enough health to get Christian medical cost sharing.

I caught one of my employees selling prescriptions in the parking lot. I caught another one smoking marijuana in a company car. Being a boss really sucks sometimes.

 

[鬼百合]

Why did AOC let her granny live with a hurricane damaged roof?

whataboutism doesn't help you.

 

[Walt]

Yes it's been declining for years now. Alaska has been in a long term recession, losing population.

Alaska's population growth has slowed, and there may be a year or two of lost population, but overall it continues to grow.

There are still jobs in Alaska, and they still have health insurance. If nothing else, there are federal jobs in Alaska, and they have health insurance. There are many different health insurance companies willing to insure these people.

Do many things, including healthcare, cost more in Alaska? Of course, Alaska is isolated, and has a tough environment. Can you blame Obama for that? No.

If you were a janitor for port-a-lets you had one choice back then.

So the ACA took them from zero choices to one choice? There were zero choices on the ACA market place before ACA(there were no market places). Then there was one choice. Now there are more than one. It sounds like things are getting better.

If the oil companies had only one choice, they would create their own health insurance company to have more choices.

 

[anonymoose]

So the ACA took them from zero choices to one choice?

No reason to be an ass. There were 4 that I could choose from for my employees. Three dropped out.
Why even have an exchange when there was only one choice?

 

[Walt]

Vance(or whatever he is calling himself lately) lectures us on how we should not look to government, and instead take care of our own families... And he refuses to spend a few bucks taking care of the woman who raised him. He refuses to support his own kids. His wife has to quit her job to support his desire to be VP, but her job was what was supporting their family.

Vance's money is Vance's money. And his family's money is partly his money too.