If social distancing is effective

[Dutch Uncle]

It seems to imply not all regions should be totally locked down like NYC lol?

What do you deduce from the data, Professor Sparky?

Of course. Which fucking moron is claiming all regions are locked down like NYC? You?

 

[Legion]

Of course. Which fucking moron is claiming all regions are locked down like NYC? You?

Have you checked Michigan lately?

 

[Legion]

Fortunately, you find yourself at odds with most of the rest of the world.

Social distancing is working, and it was absolutely the right thing to do. It is absurd to look at results of an action and claim that proves the action was pointless.

 

[Walt]

How do we know SD is working? Because it’s beating the projection numbers.

No. Social distancing works because it has experimentally been shown to work, and because it logically works. Of course making infection more difficult reduces rates of infection. How can anyone disagree with that? Social distancing is NEEDED because of projected numbers, but we know it works because it damn well works. Only as moron would argue it does not work.

In, NYC we have multiple patients on a single ventilator. That is too much. If it were worse, then it would be MUCH WORSE. That proves that social distancing was needed.

As we move towards a peek in Florida, we will see if social distancing was needed in Florida.

I really need to ask you again, this degree you claim to have, Darth Omar, is it an associate degree?

 

[Darth Omar]

No. Social distancing works because it has experimentally been shown to work, and because it logically works. Of course making infection more difficult reduces rates of infection. How can anyone disagree with that? Social distancing is NEEDED because of projected numbers, but we know it works because it damn well works. Only as moron would argue it does not work.

In, NYC we have multiple patients on a single ventilator. That is too much. If it were worse, then it would be MUCH WORSE. That proves that social distancing was needed.

As we move towards a peek in Florida, we will see if social distancing was needed in Florida.

I really need to ask you again, this degree you claim to have, Darth Omar, is it an associate degree?

Point me to where I claimed to have one and I’ll tell you lol?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

No. Social distancing works because it has experimentally been shown to work, and because it logically works. Of course making infection more difficult reduces rates of infection. How can anyone disagree with that? Social distancing is NEEDED because of projected numbers, but we know it works because it damn well works. Only as moron would argue it does not work.

In, NYC we have multiple patients on a single ventilator. That is too much. If it were worse, then it would be MUCH WORSE. That proves that social distancing was needed.

As we move towards a peek in Florida, we will see if social distancing was needed in Florida.

I really need to ask you again, this degree you claim to have, Darth Omar, is it an associate degree?

Agreed on social distancing. It's been proved to work in comparing data between those that do it and those that don't. The disease is highly contagious and indiscriminate. The places with the highest density population are the worst affected.


As for degrees; IIRC, LPNs/LVNs have associates, EMTs just a year's worth of night courses. Same for techs or even a records clerk. All are fine, respectable jobs regardless of the level of education required. It's not the job or the education that matters, but the person themselves. Some are good, some less so.

 

[PoliTalker]

How do we know SD is working?

Because it’s beating the projection numbers. Wait a minute...how do we know if the projection numbers were right?

I don’t care what the gurus say and I don’t care how many degrees they have—there’s a bad problem with that.

I do not believe there is any political reason for scientists and medical professionals to try to fudge this. Officials in virtually every country are taking the same approach. But the politics in allthe different countries are not the same. That is a strong indicator SD is not being done for political reasons.

Also, DT has every reason to inject doubt because of HIS politics.

The actions of all the nations are sound and rational, given the circumstances.

The objections to SD are political.

 

[Walt]

Agreed on social distancing. It's been proved to work in comparing data between those that do it and those that don't. The disease is highly contagious and indiscriminate. The places with the highest density population are the worst affected.

Social distancing definitely works to slow down the spreed. I really have no idea why anyone would even question that part.

As for degrees; IIRC, LPNs/LVNs have associates, EMTs just a year's worth of night courses. Same for techs or even a records clerk. All are fine, respectable jobs regardless of the level of education required. It's not the job or the education that matters, but the person themselves. Some are good, some less so.

Darth Omar claimed he and he alone should speak, because he has "a degree in these sorts of things."

 

[Darth Omar]

I do not believe there is any political reason for scientists and medical professionals to try to fudge this. Officials in virtually every country are taking the same approach. But the politics in allthe different countries are not the same. That is a strong indicator SD is not being done for political reasons.

Also, DT has every reason to inject doubt because of HIS politics.

The actions of all the nations are sound and rational, given the circumstances.

The objections to SD are political.

Well, I just gave a scientific one.

 

[Darth Omar]

Social distancing definitely works to slow down the spreed. I really have no idea why anyone would even question that part.

Darth Omar claimed he and he alone should speak, because he has "a degree in these sorts of things."

Why don’t I recall saying these things? Have any evidence or are you just making crap up?

That SD absolutely doesn’t work is a straw man. The issue is whether SD *is worth the economic pain* anywhere besides NYC or the other hotspots.

Should I bother asking if you have evidence that it was worth it?

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Darth,

Well, I just gave a scientific one.

Only in your opinion. Actually your view is nothing more than conjecture.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Darth,

Why don’t I recall saying these things? Have any evidence or are you just making crap up?

That SD absolutely doesn’t work is a straw man. The issue is whether SD *is worth the economic pain* anywhere besides NYC or the other hotspots.

Should I bother asking if you have evidence that it was worth it?

How much, in dollars, do you view an American life to be worth?

 

[Darth Omar]

Hello Darth,

Only in your opinion. Actually your view is nothing more than conjecture.

Apparently, the models were conjecture lol.

 

[Darth Omar]

Hello Darth,

How much, in dollars, do you view an American life to be worth?

The social costs, alone, of a long term shut down are nearly incalculable.

Rise in alcoholism, drug abuse, mental illness, lack of healthcare [hospitals in the vast majority of the country have been reduced to ER’s and critical care], suicide, domestic abuse just to name a few. We haven’t got to lost dollars yet.

That deserves a separate paragraph.

The country isn’t going to lockdown that long because it can’t—and it won’t.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I do not believe there is any political reason for scientists and medical professionals to try to fudge this. Officials in virtually every country are taking the same approach. But the politics in allthe different countries are not the same. That is a strong indicator SD is not being done for political reasons.

Also, DT has every reason to inject doubt because of HIS politics.

The actions of all the nations are sound and rational, given the circumstances.

The objections to SD are political.

Agreed. The only reason to think there is a "deep state" conspiracy here is because the far Right is anti-science. They believe all doctors and scientists are lying to them....unless those doctors and scientists agree with Trump, then they're okay.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Social distancing definitely works to slow down the spreed. I really have no idea why anyone would even question that part.

Darth Omar claimed he and he alone should speak, because he has "a degree in these sorts of things."

Agreed social distancing works.

The far Right thinks only they have a right to speak and anyone who disagrees is a far Left Trump-hating commie fag. In short, they are nuttier than squirrel shit.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Hello Darth,
How much, in dollars, do you view an American life to be worth?

Do not expect an honest answer from anyone. Usually it will be one of two answers: A deflection of some sort or a straw man argument about "millions of aborted babies".