If tariffs dont raise prices….

[LurchAddams]

Why would Trump drop tariffs on Meat and other food to address the increasing cost?

If you're expecting logic reason or competence from trump or anyone in his thuggery? You're going to be sorely disappointed!

 

[Jarod]

If you're expecting logic reason or competence from trump or anyone in his thuggery? You're going to be sorely disappointed!

They have absolutely no interest in truth or reality, only hero worship.

 

[LurchAddams]

They have absolutely no interest in truth or reality, only hero worship.

That and cashing in on off trump's name.

 

[FastLane]

That’s not what the White House said was the reason TACO gave up on beef tariffs.

But it is the reason.

 

[Jarod]

But it is the reason.

So more TACO lies about TACOing?

 

[Damocles]

But he, and his disciples say tariffs don't cause high prices?!?

Could not care any less about that.

 

[Jarod]

Could not care any less about that.

Yes you are not a Trumpper, remember?

However, you should care somewhat about such deception upon the more gullible of the American public.

It’s harming our economy.

 

[Damocles]

Yes you are not a Trumpper, remember?

However, you should care somewhat about such deception upon the more gullible of the American public.

It’s harming our economy.

Again... He told you what he was doing and why, asking why he's doing it after quoting him is just blather. This bores me.

 

[Jarod]

Again... He told you what he was doing and why, asking why he's doing it after quoting him is just blather. This bores me.

My point is it is simply hypocritical based on his earlier claims, that his disciples, gobbled up, and now do not care an inch, or will even admit to themselves, that they fell for it.

They supported Tariffs, in part because they believed him when he said they do not increase prices. Now they support removing tariffs because certain food items have become expensive.

This is the crux of cult politics, which harm Democracy.

If this were a democrat you’d be all over it!

 

[Into the Night]

Then why is he removing tariffs to reduce prices?

RQAA. I'll say it AGAIN. Don't ask over and over like a mindless idiot.

Tariffs are not being removed.

Tariffs are being reduced on items not produced in the U.S., such as coffee and some tropical fruit.
Beef is neither. Beef is domestically produced in the U.S.

 

[Into the Night]

I can tell you that getting things shipped from the UK / Europe, no tariff involved necessarily, is grotesquely expensive mostly because of the UK and Europe. The bureaucracy is onerous.

Shipping stuff TO the UK or Europe, involves some pretty nasty tariffs. The UK in particular is also nasty about getting all the international shipping papers just right. ("Hrmphh!")

Guess what inspired the Vogons?

I just ordered from Rimmer Brothers in the UK a pair of MGTF / MGF 240mm conversion brake discs (they fit perfectly on a Lotus Europa rear suspension to switch it to disc brakes.) These cost me in USD just a little over $20 each. Shipping after export duty, VAT, and whatnot, came to $93 USD and change.

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Tariffs aren't the problem with the UK and Europe, bureaucracy and onerous laws there are.

Tariffs levied by the UK and EU are also onerous. Rather more than what we charge to import their goods!

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Shipping stuff TO the UK or Europe, involves some pretty nasty tariffs. The UK in particular is also nasty about getting all the international shipping papers just right. ("Hrmphh!")

Guess what inspired the Vogons?

Tariffs levied by the UK and EU are also onerous. Rather more than what we charge to import their goods!

The Germans are just as bad in their own way. The customs and export paperwork for a book I ordered arrived within days. The book arrived almost 2 months later...

The French were nice. Amazon France shipped the book right away and there was even a nice hand written note inside thanking me for my order (in French). No paperwork involved other than a billing sheet.

 

[Into the Night]

So tariffs cause prices to go up? Because they cause supply to go down, right?

Why does Trump believe doing away with tariffs on beef would lower prices?

Tariffs are not being 'done away with' on imported beef, Pretender.

 

[Into the Night]

That’s not what the White House said was the reason TACO gave up on beef tariffs.

No one 'gave up' on beef tariffs, Pretender. Food doesn't levy or reduce tariffs. It is not sentient.

 

[Into the Night]

Why do you believe Trump said he was dropping the beef tariff due to high prices?

No one is 'dropping' beef tariffs.

 

[Into the Night]

I never said there were?!?

DON'T TRY TO DENY YOUR OWN POSTS!

But there were tariffs on imported beef. Trump said he is dropping that tariff to address affordability issues, but he also said tariffs don’t increase cost to the consumer, so I’m confused!

No one is 'dropping' tariffs on imported beef.

 

[Into the Night]

BTW, what is it you “know” I believe is in the files about TAcO?

Which taco? I just make 'em myself when i want 'em. I don't use 'files' to make them.

 

[Into the Night]

My point is it is simply hypocritical based on his earlier claims, that his disciples, gobbled up, and now do not care an inch, or will even admit to themselves, that they fell for it.

They supported Tariffs, in part because they believed him when he said they do not increase prices. Now they support removing tariffs because certain food items have become expensive.

This is the crux of cult politics, which harm Democracy.

If this were a democrat you’d be all over it!

You ARE a Democrat.

You are miserable if tariffs are raised.
You are miserable if tariffs are reduced.
You are miserable if prices are higher.
You are miserable if prices are lower.

You are just miserable. The hypocrisy is YOU.

 

[Into the Night]

If we really want beef prices to go down stop using thousands of acres for corn to make ethanol for an additive to gasoline. Feed it to cows instead. It does little for air pollution today and cheap feed for cows would reduce the price of raising them.

I agree. Go back to using TEL. It's a much more effective moderator, and it helps lubricate the engine. It is also not hygroscopic, like ethanol is, meaning less rust in engine, fuel system, and induction components. It also doesn't attack cork gaskets, like ethanol does.

There's only one problem. TEL poisons catalytic converters, and too many places think those things actually help or something.
Worse, Cars today are all FADAC design. Their computers are programmed to account for the back pressure from the catalytic converter. The computer will have to be reprogrammed to handle the additional air flow through the engine if the catalytic converter is removed.

An O2 sensor is still useful as a fuel trim device though.

 

[Into the Night]

The Germans are just as bad in their own way.

:thumpsup:

The customs and export paperwork for a book I ordered arrived within days. The book arrived almost 2 months later...

The French were nice. Amazon France shipped the book right away and there was even a nice hand written note inside thanking me for my order (in French). No paperwork involved other than a billing sheet.

France is more laisses faire then other EU nations like Germany. It's the reason the Germans and the French never got along with each other through the years!

The uptight Germans tell the French, "Get a life!".
The loose and relaxed French tell the Germans, "Get a life!".

You can see the same dynamic between Japan and China.