If they Republicans wanted an outsider?

Bush did twice. 538 has shown in pretty good detail this idea that gets espoused that all these white conservatives stayed home because the candidate wasn't conservative enough is false. I mean Reagan was the last conservative to run. That would mean people haven't voted in 30 years. I don't think that to be case.

It's not a myth. Bush was amiable and had like ability that Dole, McCain, and Romney lacked- and he won the social conservative in the general, something the others were not able to do.

Again, moderate is not equal to not conservative, but more akin to bipartisan. Bush worked way more with the democrats than Obama ever had the republicans.
 
It's not a myth. Bush was amiable and had like ability that Dole, McCain, and Romney lacked- and he won the social conservative in the general, something the others were not able to do.

Again, moderate is not equal to not conservative, but more akin to bipartisan. Bush worked way more with the democrats than Obama ever had the republicans.

I don't have the article in front of me but they broke down the voting numbers to show there's not this large white conservative voting group that stays home every election unless it's Ted Cruz running
 
I don't have the article in front of me but they broke down the voting numbers to show there's not this large white conservative voting group that stays home every election unless it's Ted Cruz running

I don't think a social conservative can make it either. Walker was the real deal as far as being a conservative without "special constituency". Minus his candidacy, it's Rubio VS Cruz. Rubio pulls the moderate conservatives to his camp, Cruz the social conservatives- it's who can pull the independents who are currently Trumping.
 
Different discussion points on the same candidate. I know you don't want to be reminded of how your "Party" has devolved into a xenophobic mass of non-conservatives, but its fun for me.

Well Jarod, if you're really interested in understanding Trumpomania ignore what most of the media has to say about it because they're clueless. Worse than clueless, actually. The media [and the establishment] wants people to believe Trump supporters are ignorant xenophobes because no one wants to be labeled as one. The idea being, they will abandon Trump for, a safer, more politically correct candidate that voters won't be embarrassed to say they support at the cocktail party or whatever.

The problem with their narrative, is it's simplistic. If Trump never uttered a word about Muslims or Mexicans he would be still be leading the Republican race; and he would still be attracting independents and democrats, because he is seen as an alternative to the status quo in Washington. Republicans voters just don't want Jeb Bush, and they still wouldn't, even if they weren't 'xenophobes' or whatever the PC slur of the day is.

The reason they don't, is because with Jeb in the WH it would be business as usual. Which translates into the left getting most of what they want. Republicans, conservatives especially, are sick of it and they want change, real change. And even many social conservatives are willing to compromise on their values and support Trump inspite of the fact he doesn't represent some of those values.

The danger in this [if your the DNC] is that Trumps appeal can begin to cross party lines, precisely because, he's not really a conservative: or especially not a social conservative, which is the left's embodiment of everything that is evil and profane in their upside down, black is white little world.

So, they double-down on xenophobe rhetoric. Because it's all they got. If you're really interested in understanding it, there it is.

If not, you can continue to be one of their message board minions that parrots the party line.
 
you are called racists because you say racist things


you are just so racist you don't think its racism.


racists dont know what racism looks like



its why they keep being racists
 
Remember when I told you that talk show hosts, etc. were now trying to make Trump into some "insider"?...

LOL

Anyway, Trump supporters are not conservative. I've mentioned this in the past. The vast majority of his support comes from the angry "middle" in the republican party. These people feel ignored by the conservatives and religious...
That's not true either Damo. Trumps support is coming solidly from conservative white working class voters. Predominantly males. Most of the "middle" of the party left a long time ago.
 
the republican party has lost control of the racist base they had to court to win elections


the republican party is in shambles
 
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