If Trump Wins

ExpressLane said:
Humans begin with the embryonic stage. Stop being anti science.
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Exactly...just let these "pro-choice" people spend thousands on IVF and lose embryos to negligence...They're going to sue for their babies that they will never have a chance...
Miscarriage? They lost a baby they wanted.
Abortion? Got rid of a clump of unwanted crap...
 
Guno צְבִי;5919575 said:
Ignorant old goyim

My religion has stated, specifically, for 3000 years, that life begins with breath and abortion is NOT ‘murder’.


Jewish law state that life begins at conception? No, life does not begin at
conception under Jewish law. Sources in the Talmud note that the fetus is “mere water”
before 40 days of gestation. Following this period, the fetus is considered a physical part of
the pregnant individual’s body, not yet having life of its own or independent rights. The fetus
is not viewed as separate from the parent’s body until birth begins and the first breath of
oxygen into the lungs allows the soul to enter the body.

https://www.ncjw.org/wp-content/uplo...tion-FINAL.pdf
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She also is not smart enough to discern the very simple point. The question isn't whether a clinic should be accountable for negligence. It's whether the people who run the clinic should be criminally accountable. Even when this difference is pointed out to them she and others like her give the same glassy eyed answer.

The other point is that if these criminal statutes remain in force there won't be any clinics.
 
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martin said:
She also is not smart enough to discern the very simple point. The question isn't whether a clinic should be accountable for negligence. It's whether the people who run the clinic should be criminally accountable. Even when this difference is pointed out to them she and others like her give the same glassy eyed answer.
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Jewish law has no relevance in the US, Marty.

Poor Marty. Our laws are passed by the US Congress and must pass Constitutional muster by the Supreme court.

Poor Marty.
 
Stone said:
Shall I go on ? As we all KNOW I or anyone else can post clips of violent riots all over the country when Trump was elected.
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If you need YouTube to prove your point you don’t have one. Millions protested. Very few were violent. Washington DC had to pay out millions due to false arrests. The notion that those protests were riots is a lie. Period. Full stop.
 
If you don't take responsibility as a clinic and as doctors for negligence and destruction of embryos then you should be criminally charged... the reason behind the Supreme Court ruling ..
 
TOP said:
If you don't take responsibility as a clinic and as doctors for negligence and destruction of embryos then you should be criminally charged... the reason behind the Supreme Court ruling ..
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The reason clinics are shutting the doors.
 
Jarod said:
They are all human, they are not all individual humans.
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They certainly are all unique humans with complete sets of chromosomes and direct their own development and growth. Why are you anti science.


Rather, the answer is to be found in the works of modern human embryology and developmental biology. In these texts, we find little or nothing in the way of scientific uncertainty: "…human development begins at fertilization…" write embryologists Keith Moore and T.V. N. Persaud in The Developing Human (7th edition, 2003), the most widely used textbook on human embryology.


A human embryo is a whole living member of the species Homo sapiens in the earliest stage of development. Unless severely damaged or deprived of nutrition or a suitable environment, the embryonic human will develop himself or herself by an internally directed process to the next more mature developmental stage, i.e., the fetal stage.

The embryonic, fetal, infant, child and adolescent stages are stages of development of a determinate and enduring entity -- a human being -- who comes into existence as a zygote and develops by a gradual and gapless process into adulthood many years later.
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https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4857703
 
RB 60 said:
Kill a pregnant woman, see if you're not charged with a double murder (or manslaughter).

What appears below is a summary of the laws of the 38 states that recognize the unlawful killing of an unborn child as homicide in at least some circumstances. The federal Unborn Victims of Violence Act, enacted April 1, 2004, covers unborn victims of federal and military crimes.
(States With Homicide Laws That Recognize Unborn Children as Victims Throughout the Period of Pre-natal Development)

https://www.nrlc.org/federal/unbornvictims/statehomicidelaws092302/
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Yep there are people in prison now convicted of murdering an unborn child.
 
Earl said:
Alabama Supreme Court rules frozen embryos are children ...

The Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com › politics › 2024/02/19

Feb 19, 2024 — The Alabama Supreme Court ruled Friday that frozen embryos are people and someone can be held liable for destroying them…
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Yup, not babies. Look at the Republicans run from that so fast... I lived in Alabama, it was 1990 before some counties legalized Dancing, and the governor at the time ran and won on a platform of a return to a ban on public dancing. Alabama has some very fucked up people in power.
 
Flash said:
And you believed any of that stuff or approved of it? Of course not. Neither should we believe any of the defenders of January 6 or voter fraud accusations.

It is not either/ or where a person has to choose sides between two groups of liars and vandals. Condemn lies and violence where it exists. You make unfounded and irrational assumptions to think I defended the BLS violence.
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It's not about what I believe it's about what gets reported and how it is responded to. There is a clear and obvious double standard in that regard. To deny it is to be willfully stupid.

I agree violence and lies should be condemned wherever it's found but that doesn't happen. If my assumption was wrong then I apologize but knowing apologize for correcting pointing out the doubt standard of "outrage".
 
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