Ignorance and the Bible

[Monad Portal]

Science is not a method or procedure, Sybil. It isn't an experiment either. It isn't data either. Go learn what 'hypothesis' and 'theory' mean. A hypothesis stems from a theory, not the other way 'round.

dutch hates thinking.

 

[Monad Portal]

Rather by definition, since the Bible is a witness of God and Christ and their teachings.

Often true, but not always.

usually always.

 

[Monad Portal]

For the simple reason that such committee might very well be an oligarchy.

in the modern world of too big institutions, its definitely part of an oligarchy.

 

[Into the Night]

dutch hates thinking.

Well, he's rather incapable of it.

He wants to post adolescent sexual references for some reason. (Rule 12a and 12c problems, which are NOT getting enforced).
He wants to shoot anyone that disagrees with him.
He has multiple personality disorders.
He has hallucinations, even to the point that he sometimes thinks he is me.

There is, unfortunately, no cure for his condition. All the mental institution can try to do is mitigate it somewhat with drugs. It's not always successful. This is common with such drugs. They develop kind of an immunity to it and you have to switch to a different mix of drugs.

 

[Into the Night]

usually always.

If there is only one true religious organization, that's by definition. All others are only to gain worldly power.

 

[Into the Night]

in the modern world of too big institutions, its definitely part of an oligarchy.

Define 'too big institution', and why it's an oligarchy.

 

[Monad Portal]

If there is only one true religious organization, that's by definition. All others are only to gain worldly power.

"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either -- but right through every human heart -- and through all human hearts. This line shifts. Inside us, it oscillates with the years. And even within hearts overwhelmed by evil, one small bridgehead of good is retained” -- Alexandr Solzenhitsyn​

 

[Monad Portal]

Define 'too big institution', and why it's an oligarchy.

it's a matter of taste I suppose.

ODDS ARE its at least PART of an oligarchy.

 

[Monad Portal]

like the Catholic church and the Italian bankers are in it together.

P2 lodge ... etc.

really the Italian bankers are the deep illuminati.

they got Jews to take the fall.

 

[Cypress]

So that’s a big ol “fuck you” to the Catholics.
Are you brave enough to say it to your Catholic friends?

I learned about the Luke and Matthew virgin birth narrative possibly being a cover story for a premarital pregnancy from a Catholic scholar:

"Only Luke and Matthew give us the news that Mary was pregnant before she and Joseph were married. ​

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It would be difficult to overstate the impact of a premarital pregnancy on a Jewish observant village such as Nazareth. A premarital pregnancy, if the father were not the intended husband, would bring great dishonor and shame on a woman’s family. According to the Torah, Mary’s relatives would have been entitled to take her out of her parental house and punish her through stoning.​

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Many scholars are prepared to accept that Mary’s premarital pregnancy must therefore be a historical event. Usually, when such potentially damaging stories appear in the Gospels, it means that the underlying oral or written tradition was simply too persistent or well known for the writer to ignore.​

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Both Luke and Matthew use the Hebrew Bible to frame the story in a theological context."​

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- Jean-Pierre Isboot, practicing Catholic and Biblical Scholar​

 

[Hume]

Now it's a reality

Little of what you say makes sense. You seem to have some mental illness.

 

[gmark77]

I learned about the Luke and Matthew virgin birth narrative possibly being a cover story for a premarital pregnancy from a Catholic scholar:

"Only Luke and Matthew give us the news that Mary was pregnant before she and Joseph were married. ​

​

It would be difficult to overstate the impact of a premarital pregnancy on a Jewish observant village such as Nazareth. A premarital pregnancy, if the father were not the intended husband, would bring great dishonor and shame on a woman’s family. According to the Torah, Mary’s relatives would have been entitled to take her out of her parental house and punish her through stoning.​

​

Many scholars are prepared to accept that Mary’s premarital pregnancy must therefore be a historical event. Usually, when such potentially damaging stories appear in the Gospels, it means that the underlying oral or written tradition was simply too persistent or well known for the writer to ignore.​

​

Both Luke and Matthew use the Hebrew Bible to frame the story in a theological context."​

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- Jean-Pierre Isboot, practicing Catholic and Biblical Scholar​

So are you brave enough to tell a Catholic that Mary was probably knocked by a Centurion and that the Virgin birth narrative was just to cover over the shame?

 

[Cypress]

So are you brave enough to tell a Catholic that Mary was probably knocked by a Centurion and that the Virgin birth narrative was just to cover over the shame?

Thanks for the tacit admission that the information I have comes from a Catholic, lol.

There are undoubtedly Catholics on this board who have read me writing this. It's not the first time I've written it, and I'm never afraid of stating my opinions. But you are still afraid to confront your Jewish neighbors and colleagues to tell them their Hebrew God is a blood thirsty, genocidal maniac

 

[Hume]

Thanks for the tacit admission that the information I have comes from a Catholic, lol.

There are undoubtedly Catholics on this board who have read me writing this. So it's not the first time, and I'm not afraid of stating my opinions. But you are still afraid to confront your Jewish neighbors and colleagues to tell them their Hebrew God is a blood thirsty, genocidal maniac

Christian God is a jerkoff too.

 

[Cypress]

Richard Dawkins was not an atheist. He is a religious fundamentalist in the Church of No God.

So everyone that reads the Bible is a 'nut job'???? Does that include you??

Reading comprehension problems?
Reading the entire Bible as literal fact and literal history is retarded.

 

[Cypress]

Christian God is a jerkoff too.

But atheists are afraid to confront their Jewish neighbors and colleagues to say that.

 

[Hume]

But atheists are afraid to confront their Jewish neighbors and colleagues to say that.

zzzzzzzzzz couldn't give a fuck

 

[gmark77]

Thanks for the tacit admission that the information I have comes from a Catholic, lol.

And thank YOU for the tacit admission that you don't hold yourself to the same standards you do others.

When someone questions the OT you tell them they should say it to the Jews. I'm saying that if you question the Catholics you should be likewise as brave.

If you can't say it directly and looking them in the eyes then I suggest you are merely trying to divert the debate.

 

[Cypress]

zzzzzzzzzz couldn't give a fuck

I'm not the one calling religionists irrational, uneducated, superstitious idiots.

I've actually explicitly said religion can be rational.

My historical interpretations and literary criticisms of scripture are not as inflammatory and demeaning as atheist claims about Christianity

 

[Hume]

I'm not the one calling religionists irrational, uneducated, superstitious idiots.

I've actually explicitly said religion can be rational.

My historical interpretations and literary criticisms of scripture are not as inflammatory and demeaning as atheist claims about Christianity

so?