INCOME TAX ELIMINATION

[Uncensored2008]

I don't care to convince you.

And I have no reason to believe you.

you also can't prove any of them were against it.

Just as the Maggot can't prove Obama didn't rape a 6 year old boy.,

hint: they weren't.

they're all committed lifelong banker fascists with government jobs.

There is zero evidence to support such a claim. Even with @zymurgy .

 

[Based Chad]

And I have no reason to believe you.


Just as the Maggot can't prove Obama didn't rape a 6 year old boy.,



There is zero evidence to support such a claim. Even with @zymurgy .

fine.

you can keep believing eveveryone here was against the bailouts.

you embracing falsehood makes you a less successful competitor going forward.

 

[IBDaMann]

see how libertarians have just become soulless america hating globalist shills?

You have astutely clued-in on a key aspect of any Libertarian organization, i.e. that they have become indistinguishable from Marxist anarchists (communists). The content of the underlying Utopian doctrine doesn't matter, e.g. "everybody else's wealth should be confiscated and freely redistributed to me!", "the supply-demand curve should be the basis for everything", etc. Over time, each will latch onto a very limited subset of the complete picture, allow themselves to be manipulated into surrendering to fear-n-panic, and will eventually HATE the US just like all the sniveling leftist idiots on this board.

I still think of myself as a Libertarian, but I am a classical Libertarian, and my Utopian doctrine is the supply-demand curve (and a few others from sound economics). Regrettably, today, when I hear the term "Libertarian" being used, they are all religiously against fiat currency, they are all against any form of government, including any police or military, and in most other respects are indistinguishable from Marxist anarchists (communists).

 

[Based Chad]

You have astutely clued-in on a key aspect of any Libertarian organization, i.e. that they have become indistinguishable from Marxist anarchists (communists). The content of the underlying Utopian doctrine doesn't matter, e.g. "everybody else's wealth should be confiscated and freely redistributed to me!", "the supply-demand curve should be the basis for everything", etc. Over time, each will latch onto a very limited subset of the complete picture, allow themselves to be manipulated into surrendering to fear-n-panic, and will eventually HATE the US just like all the sniveling leftist idiots on this board.

I still think of myself as a Libertarian, but I am a classical Libertarian, and my Utopian doctrine is the supply-demand curve (and a few others from sound economics). Regrettably, today, when I hear the term "Libertarian" being used, they are all religiously against fiat currency, they are all against any form of government, including any police or military, and in most other respects are indistinguishable from Marxist anarchists (communists).

yes.

due to the wonders of propaganda and reductivism, everyone thinks life is a non spiritual event that's all about efficiently worshippng a totalitarian fake number.

right now we're split under sigils of state or corporation.

but this is all an op.

 

[IBDaMann]

I am arguing that we need to get government out of our lives as they spend too much -

Are you aware that those two separate concepts are independent and distinct?

Yes, our governments spend too much ... in my opinion. What do you mean by "get government out of our lives"? Are you an anarchist?

and some of you retards call me the socialist

It would be stupid to call you a "socialist"; "communist" maybe ... but more information would need to be provided.

if debt does not matter, why is Trump crying about interest rates?

Since debt matters, what's your point?

 

[IBDaMann]

right now we're split under sigils of state or corporation.

... but it's not the case that everything is fascism, right? What is the case is that everything is split under sigils/runes of State or corporation, yes?

 

[Based Chad]

... but it's not the case that everything is fascism, right? What is the case is that everything is split under sigils/runes of State or corporation, yes?

everything mostly is fascism considering the nature of our money and banking system.

sorry.

 

[IBDaMann]

everything mostly is fascism considering the nature of our money and banking system. sorry.

Question: When a WalMart cashier gives you your change (in US currency), is that the union of corporate and government power?

 

[Based Chad]

Question: When a WalMart cashier gives you your change (in US currency), is that the union of corporate and government power?

but more importantly, is the kelo decision fascism?

 

[IBDaMann]

but more importantly, is the kelo decision fascism?

It was definitely tyrannical government overreach which did not protect the rights of the individual. Remember, I don't consider everything to be fascism.

The intent of the law, i.e. to enable the seizure of private land for the public good, became corrupted into the enablement of seizing private land on the mere claim that it was "for the public good," whether it really was or not.

 

[Based Chad]

It was definitely tyrannical government overreach which did not protect the rights of the individual. Remember, I don't consider everything to be fascism.

The intent of the law, i.e. to enable the seizure of private land for the public good, became corrupted into the enablement of seizing private land on the mere claim that it was "for the public good," whether it really was or not.

oh, its worse than that.

even if its just naked profiteering and increases tax income Kelo makes it ok, eliminating property rights for fascist purposes.

that is everything negative about the collusion of state and private interests.

and I call it fascism because it is, negative connotation and all.

 

[IBDaMann]

oh, its worse than that.

The only way you can get "worse" than tryannical government overreach that doesn't respect/protect the rights of individuals is to have tyrannical government overreach that doesn't respect/protect the rights of individuals and people end up dying, e.g. Ashli Babbit.

Did anyone die in the Kelo decision?

even if its just naked profiteering and increases tax income Kelo makes it ok, eliminating property rights for fascist purposes.

That is insufficient to excede the level of tyrannical government overreach that doesn't respect/protect the rights of individuals.

that is everything negative about the collusion of state and private interests.

I'll give you that.

and I call it fascism because it is, negative connotation and all.

It's not fascism. It's tyrannical government overreach. I realize that "fascism" is much shorter and easier to write, i.e. the lazy man's go-to term for every ill, but adult discussions require slightly greater rigor.

 

[Based Chad]

The only way you can get "worse" than tryannical government overreach that doesn't respect/protect the rights of individuals is to have tyrannical government overreach that doesn't respect/protect the rights of individuals

the kelo decision is tyrannical overreach.

it just nakedly turns the property of one private party over to another.

ashley babbit is not involved, master distractor.

 

[IBDaMann]

the kelo decision is tyrannical overreach.

We agree. Well done.

it just nakedly turns the property of one private party over to another.

... on the mere claim of being "for the public good," not that it actually is.

ashley babbit is not involved, master distractor.

Exactly, which is why your assertion of the Kelo case being worse than people dying was false.

 

[Uncensored2008]

fine.

you can keep believing eveveryone here was against the bailouts.

you embracing falsehood makes you a less successful competitor going forward.

Few if any current users were here in 2008.

Did this board exist then?

 

[Uncensored2008]

It was definitely tyrannical government overreach which did not protect the rights of the individual. Remember, I don't consider everything to be fascism.

The intent of the law, i.e. to enable the seizure of private land for the public good, became corrupted into the enablement of seizing private land on the mere claim that it was "for the public good," whether it really was or not.

Kelo was an act of war by the government against the citizenry of the nation.

 

[Based Chad]

Kelo was an act of war by the government against the citizenry of the nation.

happily utilized by corporate interests who lobby to keep it in place.

this really puts the fasc in the ism.

 

[Hawkeye10]

The money trees are on their last legs as the Imperial Empire crumbles.....income tax is not going anywhere.

 

[EdwinA]

Now these two promoted confiscatory direct taxation as a means of eliminating the middle class.

lol yes, but you want to see some really serious confiscatory direct taxation scams just read any of the 11 0r 12 'Fair Tax' Bills the right wingers dreamed up; Just more proof that they're never serious about tax reforms, just bennies and subsidies for Wall Street and off-shoring.

 

[Based Chad]

lol yes, but you want to see some really serious confiscatory direct taxation scams just read any of the 11 0r 12 'Fair Tax' Bills the right wingers dreamed up; Just more proof that they're never serious about tax reforms, just bennies and subsidies for Wall Street and off-shoring.

let a dem be more pro worker then.

the right wingers are beating the socialists at actual populism.

tariffs are good populism.

dems will have none of it.

they're globalist asshats till the bitter end.