IRS scandal & Benghazi... how many other cover ups are out there?

blackascoal said:
I wasn't just talking about the IRS debacle .. I asked if there was ANYTHING that Obama should be held accountable for, or have thoroughly investigated .. or, is everything just the republicans fault?
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As I mentioned, it all should be investigated, and I support that. And no - I don't think that it's all the Republicans' fault.

It's fun how you keep trying to box me into what you see as a typical partisan Democrat worldview, though.
 
Rana said:
Yes, the AP is disturbing, I am with you on Libya, Benghazi, and the IRS. I think the Republucans should run with the AP.
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Why?

At which juncture it’s worth pointing out that, as in Benghazi and I.R.S. scandals, no direct link to the President has yet been established. To the contrary: on Monday evening, Jay Carney, the White House spokesman, who is already under fire for his statements about Benghazi, insisted that his boss had nothing to do with the decisions to seek a subpoena and not to inform the A.P. until now. “Other than press reports, we have no knowledge of any attempt by the Justice Department to seek phone records of the A.P.,” Carney said, “We are not involved in decisions made in connection with criminal investigations.”
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Darla said:
No, the IRS should definitely be investigated. I am just saying from my reading this is not the big deal it was first made to be, and further, Obama definitely had nothing to do with this one. The AP phone record grab needs to be investigated, and that probably will go back to him. See, that is independent of the fact that I said before Obama was even reelected that the right would impeach him in his second term if they held the house. I don't do false outrage and am unimpressed with their bullshit, nor will I ever entertain it for one second. Because it's laughable.

Of the "scandals" the only one that has my interest currently is the AP one. But I have not said the IRS shit shouldn't be investigated. A real investigation. Republican hearings? Joke.
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The impeachment idea is going nowhere .. and impeaching Bill Clinton for a blowjob cheapened the word 'impeachment' for all time.

Republicans had their chance to impeach Obama last November .. and they failed miserably. Unless the same party is calling for impeachment .. it's just Americans playing with politics like children again.

The attack on Libya was a crime against humanity. It was a brutal and horrific demonstration of American imperialism. But democrats are safe from republican ire over that because republicans love attacking and destroying small nations for profit. But for me personally, I'm anxious to see the piper get paid. I'm looking forward to the fall of Obama and democrats. What was done in Libya was nothing short of pure evil.

For democrats, the problem isn't impeachment, the IRS, or Benghazi .. it's the midterms.
 
blackascoal said:
The impeachment idea is going nowhere .. and impeaching Bill Clinton for a blowjob cheapened the word 'impeachment' for all time.

Republicans had their chance to impeach Obama last November .. and they failed miserably. Unless the same party is calling for impeachment .. it's just Americans playing with politics like children again.

The attack on Libya was a crime against humanity. It was a brutal and horrific demonstration of American imperialism. But democrats are safe from republican ire over that because republicans love attacking and destroying small nations for profit. But for me personally, I'm anxious to see the piper get paid. I'm looking forward to the fall of Obama and democrats. What was done in Libya was nothing short of pure evil.

For democrats, the problem isn't impeachment, the IRS, or Benghazi .. it's the midterms.
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I don't disagree with you.
 
blackascoal said:
The impeachment idea is going nowhere .. and impeaching Bill Clinton for a blowjob cheapened the word 'impeachment' for all time.

Republicans had their chance to impeach Obama last November .. and they failed miserably. Unless the same party is calling for impeachment .. it's just Americans playing with politics like children again.

The attack on Libya was a crime against humanity. It was a brutal and horrific demonstration of American imperialism. But democrats are safe from republican ire over that because republicans love attacking and destroying small nations for profit. But for me personally, I'm anxious to see the piper get paid. I'm looking forward to the fall of Obama and democrats. What was done in Libya was nothing short of pure evil.

For democrats, the problem isn't impeachment, the IRS, or Benghazi .. it's the midterms.
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1) I agree there is nothing to impeach Obama over
2) Clinton was impeached for lying under oath, not for getting a blow job
3) That said, as we agree, the Benghazi/IRS/AP should all be investigated and those accountable held responsible.
 
Rana said:
I just truly believe in the freedom of the press and think confidentiality is paramount to it. I think the DoJ needs to defends its action against the AP, and why it went about it in this manner.
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Their actions are incredibly dangerous. It's very easy to see the end game here. No news outlet or person dares publish anything negative about an administration in power. This is basic freedom shit here.
 
Superfreak said:
1) I agree there is nothing to impeach Obama over
2) Clinton was impeached for lying under oath, not for getting a blow job
3) That said, as we agree, the Benghazi/IRS/AP should all be investigated and those accountable held responsible.
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2.) Based on a blow job! Not on what he/his administration did in foreign policy, but a bow job!
 
Rana said:
2.) Based on a blow job! Not on what he/his administration did in foreign policy, but a bow job!
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and had he just said, 'yes, I got a blow job... so blow me'... they would not have been able to do a thing. But he lied under oath... that is a no no... regardless of subject matter.
 
gee good thing they impeached clinton for lying to protect his marriage.


I wish they would have cared when Bush lied us to war
 
Superfreak said:
and had he just said, 'yes, I got a blow job... so blow me'... they would not have been able to do a thing. But he lied under oath... that is a no no... regardless of subject matter.
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Oh give me a break, he was right to lie. It was lie or humiliate his wife and teenaged daughter. The fact is he should never have been asked, but thanks to your buddies the panty sniffers, he was. And don't pretend it wasn't the blow job - Bravo was STILL talking about it only yesterday! Blue dress reference and all!
 
Superfreak said:
and had he just said, 'yes, I got a blow job... so blow me'... they would not have been able to do a thing. But he lied under oath... that is a no no... regardless of subject matter.
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It was still all very ridiculous when compared to other issues in his administration, but see, the Republucans supported those crimes.
 
Rana said:
It was still all very ridiculous when compared to other issues in his administration, but see, the Republucans supported those crimes.
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I agree with that. It was an issue between him and Hillary. But once he lied under oath, it became an issue of trust with the public.
 
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